Mahdi is coming - and the strategy for it, page 1

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Topic started on 21-9-2012 @ 04:13 PM by deckdel

I firmly believe, the Iranian statement of the war (if coming) will be one large massacre, and will lead to a new united state lead by a Mahdi.

The road to this is following:

Step 1: When night falls, Israel airforce starts flying towards Iran. Supported by special ops flown in from Azerbaijan

Step 2: 30 mins to the main strike, the allied naval fleet opens fire and sends cruise missile attack towards Iranian targets.

Step 3: 5 mins later, 60% of the allied navy is hit and damaged by a single and only Iranian round of anti-ship missiles and torpedoes.

Step 4: 5 mins later Iran has sent a massive first and only missile strike towards Israel targets.

Step 5: 20 mins later first Israel bombs hit their targets.

Step 6: 40% of Iranian missiles hit their targets and destroy all the main military bases, air fields, naval bases, infrastructure, electricity.

Step 7: 5 minutes later, Egyptian airforce sink the Israel naval fleet, and start massive bombing of Israeli ground installations and troops, which are now fully exposed. Israel has no air superiority.

Step 8: Tanks roll in towards Israel on all continental directions. Israel arms nukes and prepares use of nuclear weapons against the landforce.

Step 9: 30 minutes later Syrian and Egyptian marines make a landfall in multiple coastal locations, including paratrooper supported landing to Tel Aviv and seize the government buildings.

Step 10: Israel detonates 10 nuclear bombs along the border, and hits 5 main military concentrations and destroys all the main cities in Syria and Jordania.

Step 11: 15 minutes later, total revolution in Israel. Palestine wall falls, and the city of Jerusalem falls in the hands of mob, ripping down any control of the state.

Step 12: Egyptian army rolls in from south, Jordanian forces and Lebanese palestinians, just roll in - as their joint airforces pound any remaining spots of IDF resistance.

Step 13: 6 hours later, State of Israel has been declared voided, and United States of Arabia under interim government and leader is formed.

Step 14: 2 hours later, Allied agression on Iranian front ends as pointless.

Step 15: Mahdi is nominated to lead the new United States of Arabia.

So, what do you think - is this workable?

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:28 PM by Kasei

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I've spent a lot of time on ATS, and over the past 2 years or so, I've noticed an up-tick in the Pro-Iran or even Anti-Israel sentiments. I personally do not believe that your time table would be accurate. I do believe that the Iranians are looking for war, they want to bring on the Mahdi. They've said so themselves in the last couple of days. But I am one who holds to Ezekiel 38 which is a clear depiction of the war that is coming. Only thing is that this war ends with the annihilation of the armies which rise up against Israel, not by man's hand but God's. You can call me crazy for believing this, but until it happens and I am proven wrong, well I'll stand on God's side. Not saying that Israel hasn't been wrong in much of their actions, but then again who hasn't been, right?

Later
Kasei

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:29 PM by Insearchofthetruth1987

united states of arabia?

more like united states of fallout from isreals 10 nukes
true isreal will bite the dust
but so will everyone else
its why they obtained nukes to spite the people who take palestine back when they lose
its known as the samson option (only to use when state of isreal is losing)

basically only people to benefit would live furthest away...
united arab emirates seems like they will benefit from destruction of the competition in that area

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:33 PM by tvtexan

Did you come up with that, or do you have some inside knowledge from the Mahdi himself?
Seriously, how do you know this is what will happen?

Please have the Mahdi call me.
He's not returning my calls.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:49 PM by TheLonewolf

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It won't happen..Just more delusional ramblings from someone obsessed with doom porn and fear mongering

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:55 PM by Kasei

Originally posted by Insearchofthetruth1987
united states of arabia?

more like united states of fallout from isreals 10 nukes
true isreal will bite the dust
but so will everyone else
its why they obtained nukes to spite the people who take palestine back when they lose
its known as the samson option (only to use when state of isreal is losing)

basically only people to benefit would live furthest away...
united arab emirates seems like they will benefit from destruction of the competition in that area

You've read the 12th Imam and the Tehran Initiative as well? Excellent books on the topic, if you haven't read them, I would suggest doing so. The fact they are fiction is almost unnoticeable because of the vast similarities in our world today. Anyway back on the main topic, Israel, through the power of God, will wipe out those who rise up to destroy them. I had a dream recently about the time coming soon; this thread and the others from today just show everyone is seeing it.

Kasei

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 04:58 PM by radpetey

The 38th chapter of Ezekiel was mentioned above and I am going to give a link for that passage of scripture.

If anyone was wondering what the next conflict in Israel is going to look like, and how it is going to end???

Just read those two chapters(38-39)

Have fun!!

www.biblegateway.com...

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:00 PM by deckdel

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The point is - if Israel would do an air-strike towards Iran - the planes would have nowhere to return to, back at Israel (airfields). During the mission - and thus long time after it - Israel would not have capability to provide local air-superiority. If this happens, the scenario above is possible (hard to tell if its likely).

Their only safe measure is missile attack, and take the burden of some civilian losses. But, they do not have enough missiles to cover the 3,600 potential nuclear sites in Iran, add to that need to hit several times (if using conventional war-heads).

THUS: Either Israel in its current noice making is a) playing internal politics or b) is suicidal.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:11 PM by Nucleardiver

Ookaaay???

So Israel sets off 10 nukes on their borders and then Egyptian and Lebanese armies roll in along with Palestinian trrops?

You do realize that if Israel sets of 10 nukes along their borders, even if small kilo tac nukes the entire area surrounding Israel would be a radioactive wasteland for a long time? Hell even cockroaches would he hard pressed to survive.

Concerning your comment about Israel not having air superiority, please do some research. Israel has one of the most advanced and superior air forces in the world. With F16's, F15's, F111's, F117's and various other aircraft they are far superior to any of their enemy nations.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:12 PM by radpetey

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With all due respect.....I feel you have under estimated the power of the Israel's military.

I hope the Persians and the Arabs have a better plan then the last 6 times THEY attacked little Israel.

For once.........it appears Israel is going to open a can of you know what, before Iran makes good on their promise to wipe a country off the map

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:14 PM by phroziac

Why wouldnt israeli fighters be able to land? Dont they have roads? Fields? Planes dont have to land on a runway....its just helpful. Ive never exactly flown a fighter jet or bomber jet but even a huge jet airliner can land in the hudson river witout any deaths.....you dont think american jets would help them?

Hell they could probably land at a bunch of us controlled airports or bases. What about tankers?

Itd be a lot more war then you think

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:17 PM by deckdel

reply to post by radpetey

Hold on your horses.

The Mahdi-scenario is: Almost all the airpower from Israel is on a mission to Iran. When the airfields are destroyed - there is no return for a considerable time. Hence - no air superiority.

If however, Israel does not send air-superiority towards Iran, the survivability of the their air rades is very low. And hence, no air superiority (anymore).

They cannot thus send the air-strike.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:20 PM by deckdel

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Sure they can land anywhere. But they would not be anymore in operational capability (support window in those type of situations is less than 10 mins - and you cant do that on a rest-stop).

If they are out of the battle-field Israel - they would not be able to provide air-superiority required to maintain airforce battle capability.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:33 PM by radpetey

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Israel will be well prepared for a counterstrike.

They now have a way updated version of the U.S. Patriot anti missile missile.

I have no doubt Israel could deal with Iran. However, when you throw in the rest of their Arab enemies, and Russia on top of that, we then find ourselves right in the middle of Ezekiel 38-39

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 05:49 PM by deckdel

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Patriots certainly help against ballistic missiles, with a battlefront hitrate around 75-85%. However, Israel has only number of hundreds of them. They will run out the missiles ... when facing 1,500 missile first strike from Iran.

Add to the soup, south-lebanese MAD base (mutually assured destruction) of tens of thousands of short to medium range missiles - against which Patriot system won't work.

The biggest threat however comes from the fact, the Israel attack would void any peace agreements (if these now carry any value at all). IF, the arab front acts united in the very early phase of the Israel strike - they will win an upper hand on air superiority.

The US AID is too far away, concerning the key battle window of 2-6 hours, during which lost Israeli airpower cannot be replace anymore, and their war is de facto lost.

Thus they cannot engage with air strikes against Iran.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:03 PM by radpetey

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I think it is safe to say that we are staring at a potential global conflict

I will also say that this world is going to get crazy ugly in the coming years.

May God have mercy on us!!

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:10 PM by seabag

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Step 3: 5 mins later, 60% of the allied navy is hit and damaged by a single and only Iranian round of anti-ship missiles and torpedoes.

You lost me at step 3.

Not a CHANCE that’s going to happen, IMO of course.

Step 9 is a little far-fetched as well:

Step 9: 30 minutes later Syrian and Egyptian marines make a landfall in multiple coastal locations, including paratrooper supported landing to Tel Aviv and seize the government buildings.

You seem to forget that IDF are one of the toughest groups of SOB’s on the planet, not to mention the fact that no less than 8,000 US Marines are ALWAYS in the vicinity.

I won’t even get into discussion about the mythical Mahdi.

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:10 PM by deckdel

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To win this war, Israel has to wait couple years, and prepare a missile based, ballistic kinetic warhead. Basically a block of stone, coming down 9km/s, and releasing at impact energy equivalent of a tactical nuclear device. With these they can eliminate some of the Iran's bunker based nuclear facilities - without resorting to actual nuclear engagement. Basically, they could send hords of those to leo orbit during 6-18 months, and assemble the strike force in orbit. But they need darn many launchers...

reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:14 PM by deckdel

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Thing is, even if IDF is toughest bitches on planet - without air-cover, they are down.

The 60% damage rate to allied naval fleet is easy to calculate. Iran has 500+ anti-ship missile systems along the coast. Iranians know these cannot be reloaded - so all of them are shot once, and then the crew runs. However, against the fleet of 200+ vessels, and kill rate of 75-80% in this sort of battle condition, would still leave 50-100 missiles coming through.

Smallest vessels sink, large ones get damaged, but still floating.

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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:16 PM by seabag

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You do realize that if Israel sets of 10 nukes along their borders, even if small kilo tac nukes the entire area surrounding Israel would be a radioactive wasteland for a long time? Hell even cockroaches would he hard pressed to survive.

I don’t have much knowledge about nukes but now that you mention it…..it would make sense that anybody entering that area after a major detonation like that would be glowing.