Did Obama Just Buy A $35,000,000.00 Luxury Retirement Mansion In Hawaii?

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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Larry Sinclair


Why would I believe this guy? I guess you believe random hearsay.


Reggie Love


Yeah, that's his assistant...they are going to be near you a large portion of your day. And it is not surprising if they became good friends.


What about Obama's relationships with and Reggie Love??


I guess you didn't realize that the 35 million dollar house claims in the article are baseless.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Why do you always have to turn a conversation into this??

Question, where did Obama get that money?

It's much easier to believe Romney being able to afford a house of that price knowing what his net worth is well over $200 million... How much IS Obama earning each year in office??? I'll tell you that its not enough to afford a house of that price, and he certainly didnt have the money before taking office....hmmm??


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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by jhn7537
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Why do you always have to turn a conversation into this??

Question, where did Obama get that money?

It's much easier to believe Romney being able to afford a house of that price knowing what his net worth is well over $200 million... How much IS Obama earning each year in office??? I'll tell you that its not enough to afford a house of that price, and he certainly didnt have the money before taking office....hmmm??


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Obama sold a book.

Nobody read it but he got $$$ millions.

Just add in future speaking fees.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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"It’s actually quite common for very wealthy friends of a President to buy him a new home for after he leaves the White House, since most of the people who’ve been President so far were not very rich before they entered office (with Obama being an exception since he had several millions from his book sales before his election).

Here’s how post-presidential homes typically work: the President’s friends and wealthiest supporters chip in to ensure the family leaving the White House has someplace “suitable” to occupy once they are no longer living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Another part of Penny’s fundraising push is that “the Obamas can’t go back to Hyde Park, it just wouldn’t look right, that house is too small and is not suitable for their new stature”. The Obamas are never going to live in Chicago again. They never planned to. "

Quoted from:

hillbuzz.org... 013-2013



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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There is only hearsay evidence that Obama bought the house. A friend of a friend of his mother-in-law.

By the way.

National Journal Obama 50, Romney 43 Obama +7
Rasmussen Tracking Obama 46, Romney 45 Obama +1
Reason-Rupe Obama 52, Romney 45 Obama +7


Latest Polls



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Why do you always have to turn a conversation into this??


Turn it into what? Calling republicans out on their hypocrisy ?


Question, where did Obama get that money?


The claims are baseless. If it is actually confirmed he bought a house for 35 million then I'll answer the question. It is pointless to speculate otherwise.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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I will agree with "future" speaking fees, but how would afford a house like that now?



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
It's funny when you see Republicans complaining about being wealthy. If this thread was about Mitt Romney buying a 35 million dollar house, they would call it class welfare say you are "just jealous" of him.

This thread should be in skunk works not a news forum.

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The difference is , and clearly youre more ignorant to the facts then you claim others to be, that Mitt has the Capital and the net worth to do this if he wanted to....

Obama has nothing in the way of that kind of money to do so, so where did he get it?

Not only that, its you "democrats" and liberals that are always spewing that the republicans hate the poor and are waging class warfare.......

If this is true then , which I am dubious about considering the sources, then once again, Obama is thumbing his nose at the very people hes claiming to be championing.......

Was just last week Michelle Obama said "Times are hard, but Barack is suffering with you"

give me a break........

Michelle and Barack Obama make this whole 4 years just seem like a get rich quick scheme for themselves, with the vacations and golfing, and anniversary trips that costs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.....

This is just more of the same from this hypocrite...........

Thats the point Realspoke
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Nobody read it but he got $$$ millions.


Uh...a bunch of people read it. Me being one of the millions that did.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Michelle and Barack Obama make this whole 4 years just seem like a get rich quick scheme


Yeah, but they were already rich before Obama got into office.

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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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Michelle and Barack Obama make this whole 4 years just seem like a get rich quick scheme


Yeah, but they were already rich before Obama got into office.

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Mitt Romney rich?? No way they were worth over $200 million... No way in hell...

His Net worth of 2010 was $11.8 million...



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
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Hmmmm....could be. Maybe their 'internal' polls don't look so promising.


If it's true, I doubt it has anything to do with polls. The ruling powers may have informed Obama that his services will not be required anymore.

Before each presidential election, there are usually some indicators as to which direction it has been chosen for the "election" to go. This may just be a sign that the fix is already in.

Just my opinion, of course. Others may choose to believe in the integrity of our voting and election system.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
I say more power to them...but, if true, it really dulls the edge on his argument that rich guy Mitt Romney is 'out of touch' with the average American.


Not saying it is or isn't true about the house.
Wanted to address the other thing you said.

Mitt is not out of touch because he is rich, Mit is out of touch because he doesn't seem to take the time and truely investigate what its like to be middle class or poor. This is not out of disposition, this is out of choice. You can be filthy rich and know exactly what it is to be poor (see Bill Gates) if you care enough to research, talk not just on a political tour but in general, etc.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Michelle and Barack Obama make this whole 4 years just seem like a get rich quick scheme for themselves, with the vacations and golfing, and anniversary trips that costs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.....



Yes, its a get rich quick scheme.
All schemes start out:

1) Become President of the United States
2)???
3) Profit!

Why didn't I see this before...and here I was putting gold plating around rocks as a scam, should have just become president...I feel so stupid now!

As far as vacation days:

So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

Clearly he missed the memo on taking more vacation days..



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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I would move away from Hawaii if this is true. North Korea might just make good on its threat of lobbing missiles at Hawaii. If WWIII breaks out Hawaii would be a bad place to live in any case. I bet his security people would be happy about the move though.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Amazing what passes for news from right-wing tabloids these days...!



Hearsay rumors from friend of a friend of someone who knows the first lady's mother in law second cousin twice removed...

Oh wait, I get it - WND is involved.
THAT explains a lot. The same organization that wants us to believe Obama was a gay secretly married to a Pakistani man

Two minutes of this WND video is all any thinking person needs to see what a bunch of crack-smoking nutjobs they are. They are really giving conspiracy theorists a BAD rep.

This sort of rumor ranks up there with the "Obama's home in Chicago is in foreclosure" one. It's BS and has no basis in reality. Don't get sucked in by the right-wing hate rags.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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I personally do not think Romney 'out of touch'.
I ALSO see nothing wrong with being 'rich'; It's actually a good thing.
What matters, really, is how one comes by one's wealth.
I worked hard to earn what I have...nobody gave it to me because I ran for public office; I own my business and I BUILT THAT!
Romney, started from very little, worked hard over his lifetime, gave back much...and earned his millions the old-fashioned way.
Obama never ran a business in his life. He is a professional politician.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by InTheFlesh1980

Originally posted by IAMTAT
reply to post by MDDoxs
 

Hmmmm....could be. Maybe their 'internal' polls don't look so promising.


If it's true, I doubt it has anything to do with polls. The ruling powers may have informed Obama that his services will not be required anymore.

Before each presidential election, there are usually some indicators as to which direction it has been chosen for the "election" to go. This may just be a sign that the fix is already in.

Just my opinion, of course. Others may choose to believe in the integrity of our voting and election system.


All of the current events are just going all wrong for Obama.

- Denying the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya has gone all wrong.

Suddenly, it's " self evident " that terrorists attacked our consulate and murdered our

American ambassador Chris Stevens.

- Obama middle east foreign policies are in ruin.

- Unemployment is still above 8%.

- We recently, jumped over $16 Trillion mark for our National Debt.

- The price of gas has double since February 2009.

- Fast & Furious Scandal is back in the headlines

- Gallup --- September 20, 2012 has :

Romney 47%

Obama 47%

A president should be ahead by this time and above 50% to be re-elected

- The - Redistribution - video reveals Obama to be a socialist.

- Socialists do not get elected in America.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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ALSO...don't forget that...
Under Obama, the U.S.'s credit rating has been downgraded TWICE!



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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If true this is a ludicrous example of how corrupt our system is. While Barrack Obama is not an everyman he certainly doesn’t have the net worth to justify a house of that cost. Romney could buy in cash and not make dent in his net worth.
Simply put, regarding the price; IMO it’s clearly out of his price range – according to this analysis : he has claimed an “income” no more than 358K in any one year since 2004.

Astonishingly his personal net worth has increased from (an estimated sum) $200,004 to $400,000 in 2004 LINK to somewhere (an estimated sum) between 2.8 million and 11.8 million dollars in 4 years LINK.

So even if he didn’t spend a dime on anything he’d have to have taken somewhere between 200-400k in assets and roughly 1 million in income and transformed it into a nest egg of nearly 3-12 million dollars. I am no financial wizard but that is a fantastic rate of return on his investments.

Increasing ones net worth by a factor of somewhere between 14 and 29 times in 4 years – now that is some shrewd investing there folks. Makes me wonder, did he have some insider information or something?

I wish he’d take that approach with our national assets don’t you? I wonder if he could apply this investment savvy to say the Social Security fund or Medicare trusts or hell the investment US assets in general.

I am quite certain we’d all appreciate an increase in our nation’s net worth by a factor of 14-29 times.

Bottom line is that he is not an average guy – he is a 1 Percenter and this class warfare crap he spews is a tired old meme.

While the hypocrisy of his politics does bother me his status as a wealthy person does not. I think its fine... Personally I don’t want a guy who doesn’t manage a sizable income or assets to be POTUS. Likely he’ll have no idea how to manage large budgets.

I don't begrudge him his personal success. However, I do question the validity of his investments - hardly anyone has returns in that range.

And for RealSpoke, just to save you the trouble of posting "but so-in-so republicans" have made more and faster - again it doesn't make his actions any less questionable. IMO all the politicians are corrupt - heck it’s not even illegal for them to act on insider trading. Neat to be able to give oneself an exemption from the law...

Michelle wears 600.00 shoes and 10k dresses – I don’t care they have the money for it. Ann Romney has a # load more so she can buy more expensive clothing - who cares? They should dress nice.

I used to shop at Wal-Mart for clothes now that I make about 200k wear 50.00 dress shirts instead of no-brand 10.00 ones. I have 800.00+ tailored suits not 300.00 ones from the rack. I can walk in a buy a 1500.00 firearm this month and other than dealing with spousal backlash it's not even a dent in my savings account. I bought my wife a 15,000.00 Christmas present (A custom painted pink John Deere Gator) last year. Our first Christmas together I got her slippers and pajamas. I don’t begrudge people making money.

Bottom line he spews crap about how he was just an average Joe. Don’t try and convince me that this man is an average Joe (He went to Harvard and private schools; so did Romney). Neither is Romney – again, I don’t want my POTUS to be a man who struggles with money.

I expect him to be a good money manager but in Obama’s case it is clear he is being gifted things during his term of office, which is illegal (I wonder what interest rate he got on his mortgage if any at all? I have a credit score of 798 and I got 3.5% for a loan on land.) for almost any other government employee. He is profiting from being POTUS. That is criminal IMO. For him and all of the others – but who’s going to watch the watchers. All our “leaders” do the same thing they are certainly not going to make laws against it.

If an Army General were to be gifted a retirement home from “supporters” who worked for General Dynamics who made a ton off his acquisition approval he’d be tried and roasted before the ink was dry on the checks. Same for anyone who worked for State Department etc. That is only for regular government employees – only.

However, our elected officials somehow get a pass on this glaring appearance of impropriety. I say it’s time for a revolution!





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