reply to post by Corruption Exposed
I agree that pretty much every other country in the region are hypocrites as well but that does not give Israel the moral high ground to
possess these weapons.
Well, I do agree with that. That's why I often said that, if Israel wants to be an active participant in the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, or
be an active player in preventing other countries from achieving that capability, then they also have to sign the same agreements that everyone else
(NPT + IAEA).
The fact that they act as if they are not to be subjected to the same standards as the other countries in the region just grinds my gears and
makes it impossible to take them seriously.
That's the annoying part of it. They aren't actually subjected to the same standards because they haven't signed the agreements, like India and
However, it's worth noting that neither Pakistan nor India rant about other countries for having or developing nuclear weapons. They made a choice of
not being participants of the NPT, so they have taken that responsibility seriously and keep silent about other nations decisions.
Israel should either follow the same philosophy, or join the NPT/IAEA.
Yes many of the surrounding countries may be considered unstable, but Israel is no Saint either as I have heard you acknowledge in the past so
I'm not implying that you are blindly defending Israel as this clearly is not the case.
I believe Israel has a valid motivation
for their attitudes, and I think it's a subject so complex and vast that it's hard to pinpoint blame,
at least, with certainty.
But I also share the idea that Israel often uses over-aggressive tactics. They state there are good reasons for that, but I'm an apologist of peace,
and maybe giving peace a chance, instead of retaliation, would be a good idea.
It appears to me that our opinions may differ on the intentions of certain regimes in the area. I know that Israel never signed on to the NPT
and it really aggravates me when people use this as justification for Israel not allowing any inspections.
But to be fair, it's also frustrating to see people defending Iran with subjective arguments, while they are obligated by the NPT and IAEA to
Maybe if people realized this - from both sides - the back-and-forward exchange of arguments and accusations could be put aside, and a real solution
could be found.
I could go on for ever about the information in your post as it was very informative it's just that my main point is that Israel expects the
world to take them seriously while they act like a spoiled brat that are above the law that they expect other nations to adhere to.
Yes, but with that, I agree with you. Israel does need to refrain from certain rhetoric's and actions.
They did have a solid and credible voice in the world stage, but they are the only ones to blame for losing such credibility. I've often used the
example of Peter and the Wolf, in which Israel is the childish Peter, and the wolf
is the threat they keep mentioning.
It's funny that the story actually describes the situation in a very simple manner. While Peter describes the attitude of Israel, the wolf is a fair
representation of the possible threats that might appear - a threat that doesn't clearly exist, but it's plausible. Following the conclusion that IF
such threat appears, Peter takes the chance of nobody believing in him, when he is stating the truth.
Did you change your avatar? It looks different...or maybe I'm just out of it today
Yes, I did change it.
I'm a huge fan of the game Mass Effect, and I was using the "Earth Alliance" logo as my avatar, with the same background. It relates to an Earth
(in the game) where countries and nations no longer exist and humanity is in a stage of unity, an awesome and technology-developed Earth where it only
matters mankind's best interests, and not governments nor nations.
I assumed that was a beautiful thing, but people here in ATS were throwing crap at me because they believed I was promoting a NWO agenda.
So I changed the avatar to my favorite character in the game: Garrus Vakarian (“It's so much easier to see the world in black and white….
Gray? I don't know what to do with gray….
My nickname translates to: Garrus From Normandy.