Originally posted by nothingwrong
The actions of men are the actions of men.
The bible tells me it is OK to beat my wife, to stone people, to cut peoples hands off, to kill people.
The Koran says many of the same things.
Both books written by men who wished to control other men.
If you want to attack Islam, then you must also attack Christianity and Judaism. They all share similar messages.
I said it before and I'll say it again. If you don't believe that the Westbrough Baptist Church is a great representative of all of Christianity,
then why do you believe Radical Muslims represent all of Islam?
Where does the Bible say any of those things? OK, stoning maybe, but no Jew or Christian follows that. But where is the wife beating and cutting
people hands off?
Islamic Misinformation About the Bible
You have to understand one thing, ONLY in the QURAN are women considered foolish, obstinate, and rebellious. So when they say "The Bible says here
about fools", actually what they are doing is applying THEIR OWN view as to who is foolish, hence, they THINK this about women, therefore beating
wives is ok in the Bible.
The Bible states that fools are equally applied across all ages and both genders. Hence, people are stupid. Not just women are stupid. Should stupid
people be beaten? Well, it depends on how much trouble the stupid person caused and what he did. Today, instead of beating stupid people, we put them
in jail. Not because they are stupid, but because they stupidly did something that caused harm to someone else.
The Bible says there are foolish women and there are wise women, the same as there are foolish men and wise men. But can you see, Islam does not view
men as foolish, only women. Therefore their objections are null and void when pointing out what the Bible says.
Can you see how this concept was twisted by Islam? Do we cut hands off people for grabbing mens'......
Certainly not, and if that happened, the porn industry would suffer in Islamic countries. No more black market porn in Mecca.
There are several things people like you miss when other people tell you what the Bible says, the Bible clearly indicates "IF" you have a slave,
"IF" the slave is a girl, "IF" the girl is raped and "IF" such a person does such a thing then this is what you should do about it. But in
Jewish jurisprudence in the OT, no one could be randomly stoned, they had to be brought before the judges, THREE of them from the Tribe of Dan, and
had to have TWO witnesses who were of high moral character BEFORE any stoning or cutting off hands could ensue. Women had the right to challenge men,
women had the right to sue for divorce.
In fact, the marriage contract was given TO THE WIFE, this is the Ketubah. This was a contract between the wife and the husband and they had equal
authority in the marriage. Ketubah
Did Mohammed offer his forced-Jewish wife her Ketubah? If not, then it was not a legal marriage for her. What rabbi signed the marriage certificate
for Mohammed and his Jewish wife? If there was none, then he simply forced her into an imaginary marriage of convenience for him. Mohammed said
marriage contracts are between husband and father, so this cannot be anything based in the Bible.
No, you don't have the right to beat your wife, only the court does after it determines she might have been guilty of something, but then you have
the right to say no, not to do this. That is why Hosea actually had to buy his wife Gomer back from the slave traders that took her captive while she
was a prostitute. But Hosea loved her, even though she was a prostitute and never beat her for it. If anyone in the Bible had the right, as you
propose, then Hosea did. But he never did. So no, the Bible does not allow wife beating.