reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Quibbling over the magnitude of a politicians corruption is like arguing about the color of the potholes on Main street. Moot.
I feel your pain more than you can ever realize, but this goes beyond corrupt politicians, this is a man filled with a dangerous ideology,
I feel the same way you do, is it to late?
Where are the patriots?
You can't give up, you can't give up, your children's children's future depends on it, If you give up you have been defeated, worn down, that is
exactly what happens they wear you down, with out a fight, they win with "WORDS", threats and fear, and propaganda using our freedom of speech against
us, plus years of political correctness have suppressed the truth.
And we have not even begun to fight?
Yes, they will bring this fight to our soil, just like I warned, it is all ready here on the political ideological forefront, soon out streets will be
Obama is getting the ball rolling, four more years and all hell will break lose.
Immigrants from different nations can move to a nation and accept a new national identity. Hundreds of millions of Americans and Australians are
the result of such an arrangement. The immigrants can meet up at folk culture festivals where they partake of each other's national foods or they can
stick to their own foods-- it doesn't make that much of a difference except for when politicians running for office gain 40 pounds eating bratwurst,
pizza and bagels and drinking Guinness at campaign events.
When there is a strong national identity, either former or present, there is rarely a conflict between religious identity and national identity. Those
conflicts have usually been settled in the past in some uneasy, but final way, that allows everyone to believe what they want to believe without
turning that belief into the defining form of national identity. That way one can be a good Englishman without being a member of the Church of England
or a good Frenchmen without being a member of the Catholic Church. Arriving at that point was not easy, but it ended the religious wars of Europe.
Muslims do not have a strong national identity. Their nations are a hodgepodge of military dictators, colonial leftovers and tribal alliances. Their
societies are "multicultural" in the sense that they are composed of numerous hostile ethnic groups, tribes and families who are united only by a
common religion. This unity is fragile, but it is the most common form of unity that they have and they value it far more than national identity.
To the Muslim, his nation is a fleeting thing, a historical accident by a colonial mapmaker digging up ancient names and drawing lines that cut across
the lines of ethnic and tribal migrations, but his religion, though he understands very little of it, is a fine and great thing that has long preceded
the nation and means far more to him than the nation does.
Even Muslims in moderate countries poll as identifying more with Islam than with a political faction or national identity. That is why what happened
when Muslim democracy was unleashed on the Muslim World was completely inevitable. Muslims chose the one form of identity that they could agree on. It
was an identity that excluded Christians, but democracy draws a circle around the largest number of people and outside Lebanon and Israel, those
people are all Muslims.
Muslims bridge multiculturalism through religion and they do not accept any form of national identity that is not based on religious unity. That is
what the Arab Spring really meant.
I thought this was a good article in helping understand the mindset of the ME,
They have that religious fervor that sustains them.
A cause stronger then any nationalism or political, a holy cause.
There is nothing stronger.
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