PLEASE Ats... help me identify this pendant

Well, most image search engines are coming up blank.

Though similar picture items are coming up religious, so does it have something to do with the church? Instead of scientific, perhaps it is based on alchemy?

Originally posted by Ben81
that was rude saying i have bad drawing skills

I was agreeing with you, the drawing (and the premise) was bad.

I notice you did not bother to address the fact that your image had no right angles as opposed to the Square you claimed it aligned with. Do you always resort to childish petulance when you are wrong?

reply to post by tracehd1


yes i understand.

but in this case, sorry but there's nothing pointing in the direction of anything secret or mystic about the medallion.
and ben81 is simply making up as he goes along on this issue. he's clearly feeding you fantasies regardless how entertaining or funny they sound.

even i, in my first post alluded that it could represent alchemy but that was only because you posted this in secret societies and so my mind came in this thread with already an pre-conceived idea that it would be related.
but it's not

nobody is going to be able to tell you exactly from when, why and where it came from.

but trust me that the general consensus this thread it will reach is that is related to scientific achievement
ZERO TO DO with secret societies.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Ben81
that was rude saying i have bad drawing skills

I was agreeing with you, the drawing (and the premise) was bad.

I notice you did not bother to address the fact that your image had no right angles as opposed to the Square you claimed it aligned with. Do you always resort to childish petulance when you are wrong?

I might have missread your post to fast
my apologies for that .. will review it shortly

petulance ?
i though i saw flatulence .. another missread lol
getting tired .. woke up early this morning
ill be back in a bit and make some strong vanhoutte cofee !
let me know if you want some

Edit : ah i got your point now with the right angle
yup my drawing is really wrong on that .. but we are talking about the pendant here
do the angles match ? ..
you are obviously more expert then me on this and its no sarcasm here

I haven't read the whole thread.
Has anybody suggested Alchemy yet?

reply to post by tracehd1


The Retort and catch-bowl (which are now all but obsolete - replaced by the Alembic) were primarily used in a chemical distillation process such as organic experimental chemistry or Alchemy - but there are a myriad of other examples as well.

Without wanting to freak you out - have a look at this diagram below - it will give you an idea as to the modern day use of same:

Laboratory display of distillation:


1: A heating device
2: Still pot
3: Still head
4: Thermometer/Boiling point temperature
5: Condenser
6: Cooling water in
7: Cooling water out
8: Distillate/receiving flask
9: Vacuum/gas inlet
10: Still receiver
11: Heat control
12: Stirrer speed control
13: Stirrer/heat plate
14: Heating (Oil/sand) bath
15: Stirring means e.g.(shown), boiling chips or mechanical stirrer
16: Cooling bath / catch bowl

The Microscope would go hand-in-hand with this process in many instances, such as the Characterization of membranes for membrane distillation by atomic force microscopy and estimation of their water vapor transfer coefficients in vacuum membrane distillation process paper...

So, in a nutshell, the pendant says "lets break down the elements into their individual molecules and take a close look at them" sort of thing.

Could you tell me more precisely where is symbol on the microscope is - I'm having a bad hair day and cannot see it???


ETA: I must admit, the more I look into this the more I do indeed see "Alchemy" (as others have suggested as well). The very nature of having the pendant made certainly shows someone had a very high level of dedication to their craft - and Alchemy has consumed plenty of people throughout the ages

reply to post by SLAYER69

i proposed it before but i have reconsidered.
if it was alchemical in nature it wouldn't just have a retort and microscope.

where's the transfiguration aspect? it would have either a skull, a rose, sun and moon, or planetary symbols.

the fact it has nothing on the back is relevant.

mystical artifacts of this kind usually have figures or inscriptions on both sides.
because the concept of duality is very present and represented either on esoteric teachings, alchemical knowledge or secret societies

reply to post by UziLiberman


Thats true - however Alchemy was considered a "Dark Art" so the pendant may have duality to it - and keeping it simple but specific may lend some credence - Esoterically speaking

Maybe

reply to post by Sublimecraft


yes and it would be cleverly hidden if so.

but the microscope depiction looks too modern to relate to such a period, to me it looks old yet recent enough to place it around a time where alchemy was no longer considered a dark art, or given any interest whatsoever which is to me what looks like an early 20th century depiction.

when science really started kicking bottoms

didn't microbiologists called themselves modern day alchemists?
because they started to see and explore these new realms of reality, like alchemy had proposed.

Well, I did find this, and I found it here. freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com...

Now I have to rest my brain...

Originally posted by NurzeChris


Well, I did find this, and I found it here. freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com...

Now I have to rest my brain...

Nice job !
its indeed the same symbol minus the bucket
masters of medecine .. i wonder why

reply to post by Ben81


funny you didn't pick at and fantasized about the latin inscription...
for the record ARS MEDENDI means "art of medicine"

or heck, that image is way more related to occultism than the medallion in this thread.

see the not so hidden snake looming over the picture, that's the snake of knowledge, the one from the eden story, one of the two depicted in the caduceus.

where's your "right eyes to look" at?

I am pretty sure this pendant is an award given out to high school students for excelance in science. This piece would have originally hung from a ribbon, which is missing. It looks to be made of brass and is art deco, probably from the thirties. If you want to do more research I would check companies like Jostens. Keep in mind that it is cool but not valuable.

Originally posted by UziLiberman
reply to post by Ben81

 

funny you didn't pick at and fantasized about the latin inscription...
for the record ARS MEDENDI means "art of medicine"

or heck, that image is way more related to occultism than the medallion in this thread.

see the not so hidden snake looming over the picture, that's the snake of knowledge, the one from the eden story, one of the two depicted in the caduceus.

where's your "right eyes to look" at?

edit on 19-9-2012 by UziLiberman because: (no reason given)

You are my right eyes
thank you

i surely miss a lot of details .. i dont consider my self an expert .. far from that
found them interesting to say the least and i like learning new stuff
i like secrets and puzzles that chalenge me .. been like that for a long time
yes i can be slow to learn the truth because of the so many lies out there
there is so many things to learn in this world .. i would need 20 lifetime to learn everything
im like a train that goes full speed ahead .. hard to pick up speed at first lol
starting to understand the secret of astrology now and its amazing how vast it is
its THE base to understand everything else .. the secrets are in the stars !

Marquette Univerisity in Milwaukee WI gave this exact charm out for it's Master's of Medicine program when my Grandfather went there for college. My Grandma had his when he died (I think my dad has it now). He was a Doctor and ended up teaching at the University's Med School.

Sorry Ben, this isn't Masonic, it is a collegate charm. (Also, it is impossible to draw/see in 1D).

No conspiracies here except possibly the one where the OP's Grandma was dating a Med School student to the extent that he gave her his medal.

Neat to see someone else with one of these.

Edit to add: Masters of Medicine referrs to a College Master's Degree.

reply to post by tracehd1


thats obviously a microscope, and some chemistry equipment, my guess is that it would be worn by a chemist, or maybe a biologist, to tell people they were a scientist.

reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies


who do you think control most colleges and universities
especially in Italy and other EU countries Nato included

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

 

who do you think control most colleges and universities

especially in Italy and other EU countries Nato included

Marquette University is Catholic (specifically Jesuit - the OPPOSITE of Freemasons)

In Italy, the Catholic church controls most colleges as well.

Originally posted by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

 

who do you think control most colleges and universities

especially in Italy and other EU countries Nato included

Marquette University is Catholic (specifically Jesuit - the OPPOSITE of Freemasons)

In Italy, the Catholic church controls most colleges as well.

who do you think control most church today ? (religions is to control the mass)
now you can slowly begin to understand how big the pyramid is
with so many different layers .. where do you want to be .. at the bottom ?
or at the top standing on it

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

 

who do you think control most colleges and universities

especially in Italy and other EU countries Nato included

Marquette University is Catholic (specifically Jesuit - the OPPOSITE of Freemasons)

In Italy, the Catholic church controls most colleges as well.

who do you think control most church today ? (religions is to control the mass)
now you can slowly begin to understand how big the pyramid is
with so many different layers .. where do you want to be .. at the bottom ?
or at the top standing on it

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Seriously, the Masons do not control the Catholic church. If you knew the history of the Knights Hospitallers, the Templars, the Jesuits, the Freemasons and the Vatican then you would know that what you are asserting is not correct.

The specific position of the Vatican is that Catholic Freemasons are excommunicated.