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Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by lonegurkha
It should be understood that what you are describing are civil remedies. There must be an accuser that can show damages. I think what some people are advocating is the creation of a bureaucracy that will determine and issue charges without the presence of an accuser or the necessity of declaring and proving damages.
This to me is a very scary philosophy.
However these laws do limit what you can say about others. Civil or not they impose a limitation on what can be said.
Originally posted by Agarta
When I see people quoting the Constitution/Bill of Rights and expecting it to be the end all of discussion...
Perhaps you think I'm stupid. Perhaps you think I'm incapable of understand the simple words "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech"?
Originally posted by tvtexan
As an individual exercising their right to an opinion (freedom of speech) one should consider the indirect and direct effects of what they say, how it would affect others on the Grand scheme of things....will someone die as a result? will a building be set on fire as a result of the words or opinions you have displayed?
That is the part that many get wrong!
You just wrote exactly what I have been thinking about this whole cartoon fiasco.
Bravo! Great thread!
Originally posted by Agarta
When laws HAVE been passed and are BEING legally and lawfully upheld, THEY take precedence, LIKE IT OR NOT, until they are removed or the Supreme Courts change them. They may be against the BILL of RIGHTS which is where the 1st AMENDMENT IS, Not the Constitution, but the law is what is upheld and the current law says there are limitations.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.