Despite anti-US unrest, Washington set to open tap for billions in aid to Egypt

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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Despite anti-US unrest, Washington set to open tap for billions in aid to Egypt


www.timesofisrael.com

As anti-American sentiment boils in Islamic countries like Egypt, lawmakers are moving to permit billions of dollars in US foreign aid under a government-wide funding bill set to clear Congress this week.

In the case of Egypt, turmoil since the overthrow of U.S. ally President Hosni Mubarak early last year has delayed the release of hundreds of millions of dollars in economic aid that has been approved over several years.
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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This is bordering on the unbelievable. I can understand that the US sent military aid every year under the Mubarek regime. That money was to ensure the Egypt- Israel alliance (from 1979) remained intact and Israel was protected.

Yet, the Muslim Brotherhood is now in charge in Egypt-



Republican Rep. Dan Burton mounted a futile protest during House debate on the stopgap spending bill last week.

“I want to know if any of it is going to Libya or Egypt,” Burton said. “Our embassies have been attacked. An ambassador has been killed. The Muslim Brotherhood runs Egypt — and we’re going to give them money? I would like to have an answer.”



Here is a video of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and what they stand for-



So, for the past 30 years America funded a brutal dictatorship in Egypt, the people suffered greatly in the name of giving Israel an ally in the region.

Now, AN ENEMY of Israel has took over Egypt- a Muslim Brotherhood that calls for 'millions of martyrs to march onto Jerusalem' and the US in now proposing to send over $1 billion in military aid each year.

I'm not taking sides on this issue, I'm just presenting the current news and trying to make sense of it! the MB are enemies of Israel, huge anti American sentiment is encompassing the middle east and America is about to start sending military aid to them?!!

The only way it makes sense is if the decion makers want trouble, to directly fund a MB in Egypt is to fund the purchase of weapons for a regime intent on going to war with Israel and when it comes to it, America will fight on the side of Israel. Try and work that one out.




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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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You can pretty much see how well informed people are on the everyday dealings of our hard earned tax dollars and the corruption in US interest, when you post this type of news and you only get to hear is crickets


But when the so call deceiving news of the Defense Budget cuts came around people were dancing on the news.

People in America are so misinformed due to propaganda that they can not differentiate what is oranges and apples anymore.

This trillion of dollars waste and abused on briberies oversea to anti American government are not been cut even when they fall under the Defense budget, that alone should have people protesting, but rather they applaud how the cuts are on the ability of contractors to provide employment in the US

So in other worlds we are been sacrificed by Washington so the government can keep supporting with tax payer dollars anti American governments like Egypt for private interest agendas.

Wake up people we have been robbed, abused and exploited.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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So in other worlds we are been sacrificed by Washington so the government can keep supporting with tax payer dollars anti American governments like Egypt for private interest agendas.
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Yup, that's it in a nutshell. We go in, destabilize a country, create "regime change", put in a puppet government friendly to American interests, and then the multinatinal corporations come flooding in, like opportunistic vultures, onto a playing field which has been cleared of opposition so that the corporations get in on the ground floor, with super-cheap labor, etc.

Our tax dollars paid for this crap.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Would America not be better off by using this money for it,s own people instead of doing this? I thought they owed trillions in debt and they do this? Unbelievable .



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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This is ridiculous. We are in massive debt, have people at home that need aid but let's send billions to people that don't even like us.

Let's just do the same tired BS over and over and pretend that it will fix things.

Great plan



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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Your tax dollars at work while Americans continue to lose jobs homes and dignity at the hands of this 30 year regime. We need an American spring!

A quote I read somewhere seems to sum things up as to why this keeps happening:

"Sadly, most Amerikans are little more than ignorant herd
animals who will continue to happily munch away on their
'free' oats and remain blissfully unaware- even though they
are now being led onto the killing floor."
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus



So in other worlds we are been sacrificed by Washington so the government can keep supporting with tax payer dollars anti American governments like Egypt for private interest agendas.
reply to post by marg6043
 


Yup, that's it in a nutshell. We go in, destabilize a country, create "regime change", put in a puppet government friendly to American interests, and then the multinatinal corporations come flooding in, like opportunistic vultures, onto a playing field which has been cleared of opposition so that the corporations get in on the ground floor, with super-cheap labor, etc.

Our tax dollars paid for this crap.


Except, this regime is not being funded for American interests as it is the muslim brotherhood!

We are no longer supporting a regime with American interests (as Mubarek provided at the expense of the Egyptian people and the reason so many hate America right now)- America is now directly funding an enemy who is completely against the west.

I know what the agenda is so it is transparent to me, but trying to appreciate it on a political level is not possible because it does not make any sense on the surface.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

This is bordering on the unbelievable. I can understand that the US sent military aid every year under the Mubarek regime. That money was to ensure the Egypt- Israel alliance (from 1979) remained intact and Israel was protected.

Yet, the Muslim Brotherhood is now in charge in Egypt-

/........

I'm not taking sides on this issue, I'm just presenting the current news and trying to make sense of it! the MB are enemies of Israel, huge anti American sentiment is encompassing the middle east and America is about to start sending military aid to them?!!

The only way it makes sense is if the decion makers want trouble, to directly fund a MB in Egypt is to fund the purchase of weapons for a regime intent on going to war with Israel and when it comes to it, America will fight on the side of Israel. Try and work that one out.


In 1988 the US wanted a reason for regime change in Iraq, so the US State Department sent in the CIA to stroke Saddam after the 8 year Iran/Iraq war. The US government sold Saddam, in the first shipment anyway, about a billion dollars in arms. The purpose of the arms shipment was to replenish Saddam's weapons stockpile and give him some updated equipment for the specific end-goal of invading Kuwait. This was put together by the US State Department with the help of the French, English, Israeli's and the South Africans. Actually, the G5 cannons were added to the shipment by South Africa ministers and military contractors to make a bit more money in the deal.

So when the US went in and started bitch slapping Saddam for doing what the US told Saddam to do with Kuwait, the weapons Saddam troops were using were organized for Saddam by the US State Department. So Iraqi soldiers using US weapons to fire on US soldiers using US weapons. Sounds like "friendly-fire" to me???? Or at least all staged!

The same thing will happen with Egypt. The US will supply the MB to go against Israel so the US can come in and save the day and their will be more "friendly-fire." Problem-->Reaction-->Solution-->New Paradigm.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

This is bordering on the unbelievable. I can understand that the US sent military aid every year under the Mubarek regime. That money was to ensure the Egypt- Israel alliance (from 1979) remained intact and Israel was protected.

Yet, the Muslim Brotherhood is now in charge in Egypt-

/........

I'm not taking sides on this issue, I'm just presenting the current news and trying to make sense of it! the MB are enemies of Israel, huge anti American sentiment is encompassing the middle east and America is about to start sending military aid to them?!!

The only way it makes sense is if the decion makers want trouble, to directly fund a MB in Egypt is to fund the purchase of weapons for a regime intent on going to war with Israel and when it comes to it, America will fight on the side of Israel. Try and work that one out.


In 1988 the US wanted a reason for regime change in Iraq, so the US State Department sent in the CIA to stroke Saddam after the 8 year Iran/Iraq war. The US government sold Saddam, in the first shipment anyway, about a billion dollars in arms. The purpose of the arms shipment was to replenish Saddam's weapons stockpile and give him some updated equipment for the specific end-goal of invading Kuwait. This was put together by the US State Department with the help of the French, English, Israeli's and the South Africans. Actually, the G5 cannons were added to the shipment by South Africa ministers and military contractors to make a bit more money in the deal.

So when the US went in and started bitch slapping Saddam for doing what the US told Saddam to do with Kuwait, the weapons Saddam troops were using were organized for Saddam by the US State Department. So Iraqi soldiers using US weapons to fire on US soldiers using US weapons. Sounds like "friendly-fire" to me???? Or at least all staged!

The same thing will happen with Egypt. The US will supply the MB to go against Israel so the US can come in and save the day and their will be more "friendly-fire." Problem-->Reaction-->Solution-->New Paradigm.

Cheers - Dave


Great post, that is pretty much it in summary.
I'll add a few points-

When you think about this plan, it is true evil at work.

America has funded Egpyt for the past 30 years. It has caused great suffering to the Egyptian people- unemployment, the people have suffered greatly under this military dictatorship.

From a geopolitical view point however, this funding has helped 'American' interests. 'American' being the elite because this military dictatorship in Egypt had served as the stabilizer in the region. Egypt is a big military power in the region, as an ally of Israel under Mubarek, it has helped American hegemony.

HOWEVER-

America allowed Mubarek to fall and the Muslim Brotherhood into power. It's all a contradiction of policy unless you see the overall picture.

The floodgates have opened, a population that has been suppressed for decades is now rising up under the Muslim Brotherhood, nations in the region can now turn on Israel because Egypt in no longer an ally.

This has been the plan all along, and the fact that the US is now going to send billions of tax dollars to this regime that is an enemy to the west and Israel is the icing on the cake.

I appreciate your points bobs_uruncle, you summed it up well and I'm glad you see what is going on as well.

It's epic divide and conquer and P-R-S. But you have to see the overall picture- that the elite want Israel to be attacked now, the plan was to isolate Israel and set up this conflict.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by scotsdavy1
Would America not be better off by using this money for it,s own people instead of doing this? I thought they owed trillions in debt and they do this? Unbelievable .


Prolly borrowing the money from China,



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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the plan was to isolate Israel and set up this conflict.


That would be my guess.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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The only tap the US is set to open is the one connected to Egypt's oil and gas reserves. I think it's connected to a huge siphon hose.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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No this time, perhaps some but the rest is from the Q3 and the federal reserve putting it on the tax payers as they buy into the US bond to finance another bailout for the banks, Aka more money for them to loan, right


I guess China and Japan has not been very generous right now.
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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It's just a standard policy to throw money at another nation to gain an ally before another nation (Russia) does the same. Like a school kid handing his lunch money to a bully hoping not to get beat up on the playground, but he always does.

It needs to stop, we can't even take care of ourselves! How much healthcare could that provide to underprivileged kids or housing to the homeless without raising taxes?



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

This is bordering on the unbelievable. I can understand that the US sent military aid every year under the Mubarek regime. That money was to ensure the Egypt- Israel alliance (from 1979) remained intact and Israel was protected.

Yet, the Muslim Brotherhood is now in charge in Egypt-

/........

I'm not taking sides on this issue, I'm just presenting the current news and trying to make sense of it! the MB are enemies of Israel, huge anti American sentiment is encompassing the middle east and America is about to start sending military aid to them?!!

The only way it makes sense is if the decion makers want trouble, to directly fund a MB in Egypt is to fund the purchase of weapons for a regime intent on going to war with Israel and when it comes to it, America will fight on the side of Israel. Try and work that one out.


In 1988 the US wanted a reason for regime change in Iraq, so the US State Department sent in the CIA to stroke Saddam after the 8 year Iran/Iraq war. The US government sold Saddam, in the first shipment anyway, about a billion dollars in arms. The purpose of the arms shipment was to replenish Saddam's weapons stockpile and give him some updated equipment for the specific end-goal of invading Kuwait. This was put together by the US State Department with the help of the French, English, Israeli's and the South Africans. Actually, the G5 cannons were added to the shipment by South Africa ministers and military contractors to make a bit more money in the deal.

So when the US went in and started bitch slapping Saddam for doing what the US told Saddam to do with Kuwait, the weapons Saddam troops were using were organized for Saddam by the US State Department. So Iraqi soldiers using US weapons to fire on US soldiers using US weapons. Sounds like "friendly-fire" to me???? Or at least all staged!

The same thing will happen with Egypt. The US will supply the MB to go against Israel so the US can come in and save the day and their will be more "friendly-fire." Problem-->Reaction-->Solution-->New Paradigm.

Cheers - Dave


This has been the plan all along, and the fact that the US is now going to send billions of tax dollars to this regime that is an enemy to the west and Israel is the icing on the cake.

I appreciate your points bobs_uruncle, you summed it up well and I'm glad you see what is going on as well.

It's epic divide and conquer and P-R-S. But you have to see the overall picture- that the elite want Israel to be attacked now, the plan was to isolate Israel and set up this conflict.


Tnx, but to be honest, the reason I know this kind of manipulation takes place is because I was there in South Africa in 1988 when the deal went down (I was the Chief R&D Engineer for one of the military contractors that handled the deal and added the G5 cannons, I was highly security cleared because of my projects with Armscor, CI and the SADF, and I quit when I found out). I know most of the players personally, government ministers, managing directors, pilots (that did the shuttling), the "fixer," etc., the US ambassador was only an acquaintance (his wife had a nice gold lipstick holder and shouldn't lose things in planes btw). Inside information is always a good thing I imagine, even after the fact, I suppose it gives some insight into the future workings of these criminals of humanity since they use the same old dirty tricks over and over again.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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politicians are politicians all over the world.

having rallies chanting death to israel to gain popular support and stay in power is a far cry from actually carrying it out.

the crowd goes crazy, they all get riled up and then they go home happy.

and the politicians go back to their palaces and a scotch on the rocks.



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 01:13 AM
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This is such utter bull#. American people are suffering and there is no AID, our only hope is this "redistribution" which is just robbery. Welfare and entitlement programs is not aid, all it makes is people more reliant on the government and lower self worth.

Give them billions of dollars, to exaclty do what? create more terrorist cells? more violence and hate? to fuel another saddam hussein into power? who cares. america doesn't need them as allies. what the hell is our government thinking. EVERYONE send letters to the MSM, try try and try again to get eveyrone to know whats happening.

This foreign aid is bullcrap. We send so much of our money away and it never comes back. In the end i always bites us in the ass. And hello people, most of our oil in the US doesn't come from the middle east. They have never been great friends or allies. Unless there is a true change in people's hearts there, they don't deserve anything.

Congratulations America, you paid for your own self destruction.
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posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Send them sickness and famine.





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