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Attorneys for the Obama administration have argued, first, that the government can make a requirement that violates religious beliefs, and, second, that a private company cannot reflect the religious faith of its owners.
Weingartz Supply Company and Mr. Weingartz’s challenge rests largely on the theory that a self-described secular corporation established to sell outdoor power equipment can claim to exercise religion and thereby avoid the reach of laws designed to regulate commercial activity. This cannot be.
… Weingartz Supply Company is a for-profit, secular employer, and a secular entity by definition does not exercise religion…
www.breitbart.com / big governement
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
This article is from breitbart.com
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
I've been following this for a while.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Well done, destroying breitbart.com.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Contraception is availiable [color=gold] everywhere.
The only dangerous precedent here
is the sleeping public letting the Fed tell them what is and is not a religion.
Mike Grouchy
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
This article is from breitbart.com
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
I've been following this for a while.
For starters, If you're spending your time "following" anything on "Breitbart.Com," you should have no expectations whatsoever of attaining a reasonable understanding of the issue at hand, at least not from that source. Personally, I have more respect for used T.P. than I do for any opinion being propagated by Breitbart.Com
With respect to the opinion being put forth by the attorneys representing the Obama administration, the answer is really quite simple. They're absolutely correct!
IMO, to approach the situation any other way would only serve to open the door for the biggest corporate tax/regulation loophole in American history.
If corporations/businesses are allowed to declare that they are "religious entities" for the purpose of exempting themselves from regulation/taxation, then we may as well concede that those pesky rules & taxes and are just for the little people. If corporations are allowed to declare immunity from taxes & regulations via their newfound religious designations, it would surely decimate the revenue side of the federal budget and open the door to unfettered pollution as well.
"I'm a church, he's a church, they're a church, wouldn't you like to be a church too?" Yeah Right!edit on 19-9-2012 by Flatfish because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Bilk22
Media Matters a better source for you? How about HuffPost or Politico? Is Jesse Jackson a Rev that's entitled to religious tax status? How about that felon of a liar Al Sharpton? How about Obama's church and the Rev. Wright? Should that church have special tax status for preaching political insurrection?
Originally posted by Flatfish
Yes, contraception is indeed available everywhere and it's being provided by insurance companies across this nation at no cost to the provider. In other words, birth control is "cost neutral" to the insurance company in that they save as much money, not paying for birth related expenses, as they spend providing the birth control.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Additionally many people of faith would gladly have paid $6 a month
to [color=gold] not have contraception/abortion covered.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Why is the governement selling our unborn children to the Insurance companies bottom line.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
They hate women,
that's why.
And to prove it they are rolling out Huge unpayable fines,
if people of faith don't start paying for other people's rubbers.
1.3 Million per day,
penalties for Hobby Lobby.
This is a position that you are trying to ... what's the word ... defend?
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
1.3 Million in Fines a day for having a belief against contraception
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
contraception already availiable everywhere
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
The government enforcing this against people of faith.
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Abortion saves the insurance company lots of money, in the long term
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
I hate to be the one to tell you,
but in the final analysis you are spin doctoring for the insurance companies.
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Abortion saves the insurance company lots of money, in the long term
If you have any documentation for this claim, I'd sure like to see it.
"adding contraception and having some employees take advantage of that, lowers the overal cost of the Health plan"
- [color=gold] Secretary of Health and Human Services
- Kathleen Sebelius
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by
mikegrouchy
I hate to be the one to tell you,
but in the final analysis you are spin
doctoring for the insurance companies.
Hardly, I'm for a [color=gold] "Medicare For All," not-for-profit system.
Of course, those who really are in the pockets of the health insurance industry,
namely the GOP, wouldn't let my representatives have a seat at the table.
Remember?