Originally posted by randomname
the chair you're sitting on didn't create itself, so why would you think the earth and the universe would be any different.
everything in our physical reality relates to cause and effect. nothing happens by itself but is designed to function a certain way.
there is no reason for anything to function the way it does. but it does in harmony and everything has a function.
you have to be blind and ignorant to see that it is not random chance.
it would be like throwing a million lego pieces on the floor and it all randomly connected to form a car.
This is the typical, naive Creationist way of thinking.
I try to keep this simple:
I throw lego pieces at the ground, and each time they form one very specific pattern. You will hopefully not deny this.
EACH TIME..you, as a creationist, would say that the chances FOR THIS PARTICULAR PATTERN are so slim that there must be intelligent design behind
it...since you can, intellectually, not perceive that this specific pattern came up - the chances for it to occur are simply too slim.
You would go on any random planet, and find life-forms, animals, plants of all kinds of shape with all kinds of abilities.
EACH TIME..you would argue there must be a creator behind it since it cannot be "coincidence" that all this works so perfectly together,
INDEED - it is not "coincidence" neither is it stupid randomness....but i am afraid you do not understand what evolution even means. No scientist
would say life, the universe is RANDOM. I am not "random" or a coincidence neither are you.
You underestimate nature and you do NOT understand evolution.
Most of the times, how things EVOLVE there is only one logical outcome: Everything needs to be perfect. An organism must be perfect suited in an
environment to survive. THERE IS NO OTHER OUTCOME.
It is not coincidence and it is not stupid randomness, it is the beauty of nature that things adapt and evolve perfectly.
We live from and eat meat and plants. NOT because a god wrote a computer program or designed us to eat meat or plants - because its the LOGICAL
thing..what else should we eat here on Earth?
(On a funny side note, let's speculate we would actually eat rocks...you would also argue what an amazing coincidence it would be that we can eat
rocks...so god must have designed it that way.)
There 10000s of different outcomes, life forms etc. possible and thinkable....and those life-forms who made it will always appear amazingly
perfect...because the ones who are not perfect did not even have a chance in the first place to even exist.
We could NOT have evolved with a skeleton/bones which is too weak to carry our body according to gravity here on Earth. So..why did we not develop
super fine, fragile bones which would snap the first time a fly sits on your head? We developed strong bones because there was simply no other way. No
one "designed" it. It is impossible we would exist now with bones which would not be able to carry our weight. The ONLY logical outcome is that we
evolved like we evolved and everything looks (and basically) is perfect..otherwise we would not exist in the first place.
You do it the exact opposite way around: You would look at a human/animal and see ("what a coincidence!!") that eg. our bones are just the right
strength, size etc. to carry our weight...and then, based on this, argue there must be intelligent design behind this. It's not, but neither is it
"random" or "coincidence". And please stop the argument to assume that everyone who does not believe in creationism thinks it's all "coincidence" or
"chance". It just shows that you don't understand.
(Of course, you would keep with your own theories even if the universe would be different, say we would, for some reason, have three heads and four
arms...or being much smaller or larger. Rest assured, if it WERE that way, there would be a reason behind it [for example, on a planet with different
gravity we could assume life-forms could possibly get very large...or very small] - but you would also argue there must be design behind it because
everything "fits so amazingly", regardless).
edit on 20-9-2012 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)