posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 12:48 PM
Originally posted by DISRAELI
Originally posted by ntech
The simple explanation is Daniel is describing the visions he is having. The term goat and Greece are what I would consider a simile. Meaning that
rather than being the actual Greece in the prophecy what he is saying is that the object in question looked Greek to him...all he can do is describe
what he saw
The vision described by Daniel in ch8 is about a ram and a goat.
The prophet Daniel does NOT say that the goat is Greece.
The information that the goat represents the king of Greece COMES FROM THE ANGEL who interprets the vision to him (ch8 v21).
Similarly in ch11 v2. The reference to the kingdom of Greece is part of the long explanatory speech which another angel begins in ch10 v20.
So your idea that the identification is based on Daniel's confused understanding of what he saw is mistaken; it comes on the authority of the angel of
edit on 19-9-2012 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)
Actually what is going on is this.
26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it
shall be for many days.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
What you have here is a "sealed" prophesy. Simply put it wasn't supposed to be understood until the time of the end was near or actually running.
And here's the problem with that.
In the Matthew 24 prophesy there is the fig tree parable. Where the end time events are compared to fig leaves. And we are told that the timeline for
the parable is the lifetime of generation. So if the average lifetime is running between 70 to 80 years approximately then there is a problem with
Daniel. His prophesies need to be running now. Why? Because the nation of Israel was created in 1948. If that was a fig leaf then the Apocalypse is
64 to 67 years old.
And if you look at current events Daniel appears to have gone 3 for 3 since 9-11-01. Attacking Iran would make the 4th event of the prophesies.
So is it really all that hard to imagine the US as fulfilling the role of the realm of Greece in the end times? And becoming part of the end time
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