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One day in 1939, several children – M. Jimenez Junquera among them – were looking after the cattle in Zahara de los Atunes (Cadiz) and noticed an unidentified flying object measuring some 18 meters in diameter. When the UFO flew over them at low altitude, they felt a sensation of heat. The object landed some 30 meters distant from them, kicking up a large dust storm. Subsequently, a door opened, and from within the object came two beings – one tall and the other short and stout, wearing one-piece outfits and with a rigid aspect, bearing torches that lit the surrounding area, despite the fact that it was midday. They wore “suspenders” that fastened a large backpack, from which protruded something like an antenna. The beings had large dark sockets in their heads instead of eyes. After walking some 20 paces from the UFO, they turned around and re-entered it. The encounter lasted some fifteen minutes, approximately. Upon takeoff, the object left an imprint on the ground which according to several researchers was visible until 1980.
Curiously, there is a case from 1938 contained in J.J. Benitez’s outstanding La Punta del Iceberg (The Tip of the Iceberg – Ed. Planeta, 1983) that dovetails in its own strange way with the CE-3 contained in Angel Carretero’s files. Mariano Melgar, born in 1931, was a restless seven year old who was sent by his parents to live with relatives in the town of Muñico in the province of Avila. While tending to the family cows one summer noon, he led the animals to a grazing area near a small wooded area with a clear, cold brook. According to Benitez, young Mariano was sitting in the shade when he heard a buzzing sound (a common feature in many UFO incidents) and saw a spark of light in the clear blue skies: it was a “round object, some 15 to 20 meters in diameter, with a small dome in its upper section...with colored lights all around it. The fuselage shone like burnished aluminum and it had two round windows, like portholes on a ship”
Two oddly-garbed entities descended from the craft, stepping a few meters away to fill what the boy took for a “sack” with samples of soil. A third entity remained by the craft’s doorway, and it was precisely this third “ufonaut” who fired a beam of light against young Mariano when – moved by childish curiosity – he came out of his retreat to approach the first two. “I hadn’t covered five meters when the one who remained at the hatch opening fired a flash at me that nearly knocked me backwards. It frightened me and I retreated back into the treeline.” Determined to get closer, the farmboy was repelled a second time by a flash that nearly blinded him.
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Druscilla
I agree, Druscilla. I love how alien invaders are pictured in old art and movies.
Then you are going to love this, here is just 3 out of 22 pics, enjoy..................
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
reply to post by SloAnPainful
My 6-year old boy totally just agreed with you..............reckons Optimus Prime would destroy all the "squid robots" dad.
Out of the mouth of babes..........
I suspect that if vast distance space travel is feasible as is indicated in new findings regarding the feasibility of warp drive, and there are aliens using faster than light travel (edit) we will find that real, actual space aliens are so totally alien that everything we ever imagined about aliens is and was wrong.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
What interests me is the rather mundane or puzzling things they're always doing. Soil samples? Really? Or how about getting out of their ship, standing around for a little bit, and then leaving?
"Should we stick around a while? This seems like a nice planet."
I suspect that if vast distance space travel is feasible as is indicated in new findings regarding the feasibility of warp drive, and there are aliens using faster than light travel who just so happen to stop by for a 'hello', that we will find that real, actual space aliens are so totally alien that everything we ever imagined about aliens is and was wrong.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Willy Ley in the 1940s (a saucer doubter), pointed out that visiting intelligent life would probably be similar to us through evolutionary drivers. Even numbers of arms and legs, two eyes and a head at one end of the alimentary canal. After all, complex life is a digestive system with the prerogative of motion. In order to build the technology to come from A to Z, it must have had the means of combustion and manufacture.
Manufacture would require an atmosphere suitable for supporting a naked flame. Such an atmosphere would have evolutionary consequences in genetic structure too - for example, lungs and airways.
Of course, evolution marches on and changes under environmental pushes and pulls throughout successive generations. This would mean that our provisional visitors might not take the humanoid form presently, but would have done at some point in their history. Breathable atmosphere and the genetic design for tool-use is key.
Take, for instance, dogs, horses, elephants, cuttlefish, African Grey parrots; all very smart animals evolved right along side us in the same local terrestrial environment.
There are exceptions though, perhaps where in cases of manufactured, self aware, biological, Von Neumann machines, or any other machine (biological, silicon, combination, or otherwise) that may even be emancipated from its developers.
So, it turns out that my irrational fear of crows might not be so irrational after all. Do you have any idea how clever these things are? They can use tools. they can make tools. They can recognize faces - and now they can work out the actions of people who are hidden. Someday they will take over the world, and I for one welcome our crow overlords.
“We show that tool-making New Caledonian crows react differently to an observable event when it is caused by a hidden causal agent” than by an agent that could be seen or infered, the authors wrote in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, where they published their results yesterday (September 17). “This difference shows that the crows can reason about a hidden causal agent”—a cognitive ability previously only attributed to humans.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
True, four-legged animals are smart. However they don't have the upright body to enable sophisticated tool-use. They don't have opposable thumbs for example. It's hard to imagine them striking rocks together to create an edge tool. Such an activity would be an unavoidable watershed moment in developing weapons or creating fire.