three of my posts have been deleted .. what the freak is going on here????? does anyone else not see this???

The theory that they are human(oid) time travelers from the future has always intrigued me as a rather interesting, somewhat "plausible" scenario. (More plausible actually than the ET hypothesis).

But i have a problem with more general aspects of time traveling - in particular the idea that through actions by them etc. new "time lines" are created.

Are new time-lines really "created" by hypothetical time travelers?

If i were to believe in the theory of multiple time-lines, then i would think that infinite "possible" time-lines are already existing and there is no need to "create" a specific time-line by actions of humanoids from the future. Even if it were the case that time travelers could create a new time-line - then we still have the old one..so what importance would it have anyway to create a new time-line if the original once is not affected?

It would make much more sense to me to just assume that the multiple time-line hypothesis doesn't work like that and there is simply only ONE time-line - only then it would make halfway sense they come back to "correct" something.

The other question is whether they really come back to "correct" something in the first place. Don't forget this only a theory anyway. They might come here to only observe, who knows.

SonofheSun, the links you gave are working now. i can see them now, thank you! whatever you did worked

....maybe they're from venus

After years of EMFs, WiFi, plastics, pharmaceuticals, CDC, AMA, nano, break down in eco-system and Monsanto have their way with us....

We will probably look very similar. good possibility

I wouldn't be using evolution so liberally here. The body doesn't always evolve something just because it's advantageous. To me, the process seems to be "controlled" by someone or something. For example, I think I've pointed out why there's really no reason for the body to NOT duplicate the telomeres perfectly, and even learn how to regenerate organs, which would effectively give us immortality. Another thing is wings, there was no reason at all for those birds to abandon them. Why couldn't they evolve arms, "in addition to the wings," and make us "angels?" Surely they would have realized how advantageous flying was. Growing an extra set of arms probably isn't much more difficult than growing(or losing) a tail, so why couldn't they do it?

If Asians were to evolve or "desire" bigger eyes, the reason would be that they're more beautiful, but the Greys aren't exactly beautiful(at least from our standpoint), which brings us to the subject of beauty(that the body cannot change to be simpler, even if it wanted to. If it did, then we would eventually differ on whether this girl, house, car, etc is beautiful, and that would be strange. In other words, it seems that "the concept of beauty is already pre-defined for the human race.") IMO, being beautiful consists of no less than 8 traits(that I've read or learned from multiple sources), and these are: big eyes, small nose, double-eyelids, high cheekbones, small jaw, heart-shaped face, high symmetry and proportionality. It's my opinion that you need at least 5 or 6 of them to truly be considered beautiful.

For now, we'll leave out why it's so complex. Other than the high cheekbones, I have verified ALL of these traits, through hundred of White celebrities, Asians celebrities and Asians girls pictures, on sites like Facebook. How did I verify the proportionality trait? Well, what I've found is that, at least with regards to Asian women, when they have big eyes and small nose and are still not beautiful, their eyes are ALWAYS too far apart, more than 50%(technically 46%) or more than half the face at eye level, and you can judge this with just pictures(visit the link in my sig and you'll understand this trait more).

And here's the thing, the body actually keeps track of this distance! It's said that the distance between an adult's eyes is 10x less proportionally to the distance between the eyes and the tip of their hands extended(and if you look at basketball players, including White ones, you'll see how true this is. The guys with long wingspan, for example, Pau Gasol, their eyes are far apart). This would not be possible, unless the body keeps track of this distance.

Anyway, the point here is that it appears that the body already knows what is beautiful(after all, it seems to know how to make babies cute), but it doesn't actually WANT to do it. Why is that? My opinion is that it all goes back to this cosmic computer programmer and his quirks, or perhaps some species is controlling our DNA and decides when we should take the next step in our evolution, and that includes things like the Cambrian explosion, all macro-evolutions, etc.

Or perhaps it becomes irrelevant when we get into the next dimension, become energy form and can shapeshift at will.

Like many here, I arrived at this hypothesis independently. Around 1980. I think Bluesma's musings really go to the root of the Grey phenomenon.

Originally posted by Bluesma

For me, this phenomenon is part of the collective subconscious, the Grey's are our most current form of the same energies that were once taking the forms of fairies, elves, gnomes, etc. They are concepts without a biological form of their own (in the sense that we percieve that to be), without much self consciousness, and moving within the stream of consciousness that we modern humans have pushed into the sub- or un- conscious realms. They are archetypes.

But that doesn't invalidate their existence as much as some might think right away. Our modern western society has gotten accustomed to separating what's "in your head" from "reality", and I think that is misleading.
What we shall continue to find out in science is that the two are tightly entwined and interdependant.

What is in that realm of "mind" has life of it's own, that influences and manipulates your own individual one, even if you are not aware of it! Wonderland is not a far away universe, and the entities such as the grey's have always been part of things.

Let me add a forgotten "missing link" from fairies to Greys. During the Golden Age of science fiction, from the early 1920's through the '40's, there was a multitude of stories grappling with Darwinism, which had finally gained popular acceptance. (Hard to believe now, if you're American, but it happened.) These stories tended to write Evolution Large across the galaxy. Remember, this was a society that was accustomed to looking at the inequities of the world and explaining it in racial terms. (Easy to believe if you're an American.) I've read stories from that period dealing with evolutionary arcs from angels to rats. That's also the period when reports of otherworldly visitations shifted from fairies to angelically beautiful (highly evolved) creatures. (That's the missing link I was talking about.) The Greys started showing up in the early sixties or thereabouts. When it began to penetrate the collective unconscious that "white" does not equal "more evolved".

That doesn't mean I discount the possibility that these guys are from the future. I just wish I could believe it. It's more optimistic than what I see.

Very good write up SonOfTheSun. It was interesting reading all the different views and replys to your thread. I too believe this is a VERY possible scenario. I believe there are a bunch of things happening at this point in time. And there may be other entities doing the same thing the grays are doing. Bluesma response was a bit hard for me to grasp but I do get the concept, however I personally don't think they are akin to fairies, gnomes and such, BUT would never rule it out as I am open minded. I think the big question is "How do we find out and confirm on a GLOBAL scale the who's, why's, how's, and what's, concerning the greys." From all the reports they are DEFINITELY up to something here on our/their planet. And I say their planet as in with their technology we are of absolutely NO threat to them. As with anything that is uncertain, we must have more solid information to paint a picture everyone can say YES to.

And to reply to user 'Hotbread' Its not BS, its happening here and now and your part of it weather or not you understand even the slightest bit of the topic, plus your one liner sucks.

Hows this for a one liner. " Go outside and look up until you see something you cant explain, be sure to bring a friend to confirm and converse with!"
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