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Extra Terrestrials ? No. WE are the Greys... !?!?

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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Imtor
Pointless to discuss or create thread of something that is just an imaginary idea based on nothing


Then you don't belong here. Why did you even bother creating an account on ATS? Seriously, quit trolling and post something useful to contribute to the thread.




posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by SonoftheSun
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Underground, in the future. In our future. We only get glimpses of them here and there.

I always think of Roswell when I think of the possibility that the Greys are us from a future. Having recovered a damaged technological craft from us, from the future...think about it. It would warrant a darn serious cover up. Very much indeed. But it's just my opinion...

Hope it answers your question.


Love the thread, love this theory.... who knows.

If we do survive as a species and of course evolve, surely we made it back in time and if so, this is us. ;-)

I wonder how we solved the many problems of today?



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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I mean no disrespect when I say this but, I feel we are going backwards here. Having Alien Greys travel from the future to better their existence in the future? Wouldn't it make more sense to go back to when they F'd up and stop whatever event that occurred from occurring as opposed to dissecting ancient food stuff of their ancestors?

I would agree however, that they are likely subterranean in nature based on their physical appearance. Who’s to say they aren't indigenous to Earth (as you are claiming) but simply live in the here and now? Underwater bases, underground bases......not even going as far as "Hollow Earth" but perhaps to a certain degree. I mean we have been building them ourselves all over the world. How many times do you take a stroll into a cavern that descends miles and miles below the surface? ......me either.


The "Alien Grey" description is the same going back thousands of years. Meaning, if they were time travelers, whatever they are looking for, apparently wasn't found the first 10,000 times and have to keep coming back to search for some sacred uterus? Doubt it. It would make more sense to consider them neighbors who don't prefer to mingle with us above ground folks.....for obvious reasons, but curious enough to study us.

Did they chose to live underground because of destruction above....perhaps, or maybe they realize the threat level from Mother Nature decreases substantially when you’re not in her face shaking your ass at her saying "Nanny nanny poo poo". Our planet is constantly changing and there are threats from outer space, from volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc, etc. It just seems safer, and think of being undisturbed for eons paving the way for them to focus on advancement in technology etc.

All I'm saying is that it makes more sense to say they live in the here and now or they live on Zeta Reticuli over them traveling back to the past. And I haven’t even delved into the concept of the grandfather paradox......

Still an interesting thread and good for a thought provoking moment but IMO a little silly.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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Ever read the story, Alien Interview
Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by :
Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy ?

I think if the Grey alien exist this has a more plausible description.


However, in terms of physiology, the being was "asexual" and had no internal or external reproductive organs. Her body was more like the body of a "doll" or "robot". There were no internal "organs", as the body was not constructed of biological cells. It did have a kind of "circuit" system or electrical nervous system that ran throughout the body



body could not even be called "alive". Her "doll" body is not a biological life form,with cells, and so forth.It had a smooth skin, or covering which was gray in color. The body was highly
tolerant to changes in temperature, atmospheric conditions, and pressure. The limbs
were quite frail, without musculature. In space there is no gravity,very little muscle strength is needed. The body was used almost entirely on space
craft or in low, or no-gravity environments.



QUESTION - "Do need food or water or other sustenance?"
ANSWER - NO

QUESTION - "Do you have any special environmental
needs, such as air temperature, atmospheric chemical
content, air pressure, or waste elimination?"
ANSWER -
NO. I AM NOT A BIOLOGICAL BEING.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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I still believe ufos are demons trying to trick people into thinking there is intelligent life that we came from, not god. I'm not saying there isn't life on other planets, but there isn't intelligent life flying around our planet in my opinion.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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OP, your theory holds water on some levels.

male sperm counts across the world right now are declining at a rapid rate. it is reasonable to think insterility would be a major issue for humans in the near future - 100-200 years lets say?

growth in the field of physics has led to whole new visions of space/time in recent years. imagine where quatum physics would be 100, or 200 years from now... brief interludes of time travel are theoretically possible.

knowlege of DNA and ways to maipulate dna, like the field of physics, has grown exponentially. with weather changes, food shortages, damaging solra rays and space and time travel technology on the horizon, how long do you think it will take for scientists to begin finding solutions to the human dilema through DNA manipulation of our own species? 100-200 years? by then will we try to increase intelligence, fight illness, re-adapt body structure and funtion through genetics?

so, 300 years from now, lets say, it is not unreasonable to assume that Homo Sapiens will be sterile, facing profound ecological crisis, be capible of space and time travel and have a profound interest in tapping into the PRE-DECLINE DNA of humans and animals [circa 2012].



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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from what i've read (just people's opinions), it makes sense to me that they could be our future selves and/or demons (fallen angels). after reading some of the theories you have come up with it makes even more sense to me now. if you consider the timeline you proposed, we basically f'ed ourselves up and fell underground. it would then be plausible to suggest that we lost our light so to speak and are now on a lower vibrational level (in that timeline).



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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yes, that theory on the greys seems more rational to me but you can't rule anything out. also, if they are time travelers that may be precisely why they are here now, to rewrite history and save themselves.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by ApacheWarrior


post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions





Such a promising career prematurely cut short!

RIP in the great 404 in the sky.....:



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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think about cloning technologies 300 years in the future... would there be a use for HUMAN clones in a world where humans are sterile? how about for working in nuclear radiation or deep space?

how would humans cope with a minimum ozone layer and constant exposure to solar radiation 300 years from now? would they use their knowlege of DNA and gentics to alter the appearance and function of their skin to resist extreme solar rays? i wonder how reptile skin does with blocking solar rays that would damage human skin. could retile DNA be spliced with human DNA to create lizard-like skin?

what if the crisis on earth was so severe, and humans were so desperate that if they HAD advanced DNA and cloning skills, that humans decided they MUST genetically manipulate the human brain to be more intelligent to solve the earth's crisis. would the cranium size increase with such manipulation?

what if physics led to breakthroughs in the 'psychic-sciences' such that scientists rea;lized brain waves can travel, send/receive information away from the body. if DNA manipulation was already being done, would scientists be interested in manipulating human DNA to strengthen and emphasize these valuable psychic powers?

what if food shortages became endemic, would DNA manipulation in size and funtion of the body be a solution?

what if nuclear radiation became a hug

e problem in earth's future as well, to the point that most species had altered radically through generations. what stop=gaps would scientists use if they had full use of DNA to save the species?

what if the world of the future is very very grey, with ecology depleted and technology was mostly survival/elitist organized? could these beings be the future of the human race? say 400 years from now? its reasonable to say these changes could begin in the next 100 years...other UFO theories such as transdimensional and far space are actually less likely than humans screwing everything up with ugliness and technology in the next 200 years.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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i think an important part of the 'aliens are future humans' debate is whether such future humans are manipulating time to 'save us'.

the bulk of the ufo media would tend to indicate that they 'tell' abducties of future calamities, but at best hoping to manipulate future probabilities, but not their own. they appear to recognize a multidimensional future, but by virtue of being here, THEIR OWN future would not be impacted by going back in time, only OTHER PROBABILITIES. the alien's pobable future would stay the same, but with time travel.

its clear if aliiens are humans from our future, they are more interested in material for DNA and cloning [both food and human and ecological] for their own needs, rather than trying to change their own future through time tricks.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Imtor

Pointless to discuss or create thread of something that is just an imaginary idea based on nothing


As pointless as your reply !


One sentence, seventeen words that you could have used somewhere else, in some other thread, in some other forum, and that could have been helpful to someone.

Imtor, no offense, but next time, try to at least put a little meat on your biased opinions...



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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would the US government meet with, and sign a treaty with 'future genetically cloned humans". if humans came from the future and met with our government, when the future humans explained that they needed genetic resources and embryos to save humanity in the future, what would the government say? "give us technology". what would the future-humans say? 'only non-leathal technology'. when it came to classifying the the knowlege that the future of humanity is dire and dismal, and that we polluted our own bed, would the government keep it classified? ...hiding time/travel craft and working covertly with 'future humans'?

damn interesting theory. im p-sout ciaoo



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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I apologize in advance if my reply is a bit short or silly, it is past 3 am over here and my brain is half asleep.

Your theory is interesting, and it does make sense. I would like to add another idea to it, concerning the part where you talk about them being humans from the future. I was thinking perhaps they are not from the future, but from right now, just as we are, just they are another branch of hominids that went into hiding back in the dawn of history.

We have archeological evidence that there were more than one kind of humans living all together at some points, and it is even argued that some of the other branches disappeared or went extinct because of our species.

Could some of those beings have survived somehow, and developed their own civilizations underground, or somewhere else we can't see them?



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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true that makes a lot of sense, which again leads me to believe they are sort of amoral towards us. it does not mean they are evil demons, but they aren't trying to help us either. just note, i am not completely sold on any ideas regarding extraterrestrials (i do believe they have to exist in some shape though), but i take every possibility into consideration. however, if they are our future selves they probably miss the joy that makes each and everyone one of us, "us". they might not be able to put their finger on it but i feel like they would have an innate need and love for us that is so strong that they would do their best to prevent us from destroying ourselves or ending up like "them". either that or they are just as joyful as us but i mean c'mon, from how they have been described to me, they can't eat, drink, or have sex!



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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If that is the case then I regret to inform everyone that we evolved into morons. Because tactically speaking, for any military operation or any type of project planning (which I do a lot of at work), is build an action plan; lay out the steps to success, outline obstacles and identify resources and most important set a deadline. You don't want to fumble your way to a goal, most importantly, any goal that an entire species existence rests upon.....just saying.
So these imbicile, time traveling goobers have to keep sending back more goobers over and over to set right a wrong.

If we, even in the present day, with our current, NOT Top Secret knowledge, we would know to build an action plan and see it through to our goal. If failure is evident, destroy all traces so not to further complicate the space time continuium and find themselves back home with boobs for butts and controlled by really irritated, scorned and highly advanced Jumo Shrimp.

Because if were gonna talk time travel then everything is equally as logical as time travel itself. Funny thing is I don't even think time travel is impossible..to a point. If it is just by you traveling there forces you into an alternate univerese thereby proving the existence of a multiverse which only further illustrates the futility of the concept. You can change "you're" perspective by travel backward sure, but not the ones your interacting with, etc, etc.

So to get to the answer of the Grey's. Once you can get past the garbage, missinformation, propaghanda, doom porn and so forth then you need to analyze what is possible.

I'd consider time travel a remote possibility because I am of the nature that anything is possible. To think otherwise would only further illustrate the ignorance of man. But ultimately to get to the answer:

One should always proceed with the simpler theories until simplicity can be traded for greater explanatory power. ~Occam's Razor
edit on 19-9-2012 by masta12d because: haha another comment from notepad came along....deleted.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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I will never understand how some people find it more believable that demons exists then highly evolved people from another planet??
There is zero logic to that line of thought. It's not even realistic. We exists, which IS proof that it is possible for intelligent life to evolve on planets elsewhere in the universe. Please tell me, what is a demon exactly? and why is it more believable that the "Greys" are demons than Aliens? I am genuinely curious as to what your answer is. Please don't tell me "because the bible says so".

To the OP. Great thread, well thought out. I have pondered over this theory as well. Though I do lean toward them being from another planet as it just seems to be the more logical answer in my opinion.

S&F



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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wait..lol..take it one step further..

what if wealthy elitists and rampant technology DO ruin the world? who would still have the technology to clone and manipulate DNA and run advanced physics experiments? why, the wealthy elitists of course, who are in their taxpayer built militarized underground top secret government bunkers.

but china's bunkers are in china. and europe's, in europe. so that when these radical changes are made to human DNA to survive the ruined world/ecology, each bunker city produces its own genetic results and clones, even time travel, much like russian fighter jets are dissimilar from USA fighter jets.

4000 years from now, our future human time travelors could be made up of MANY different 'species' in terms of how they look [how they were generationall genetically manipulated]. some would be 'good aliens maybe'. if they were elitists, some would definately be very very naughty.

lol..peacee goog post op



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Not an original idea. First thing i said to myself before i clicked... please don't let it be about how the greys are us from the future.....

and lo and behold it was a thread about greys being us from teh future. I think my buddies and I touched on this topic after a long night of drinking. one of the guys i was with had heard somewhere before
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Darkmask
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I will never understand how some people find it more believable that demons exists then highly evolved people from another planet??
There is zero logic to that line of thought. It's not even realistic. We exists, which IS proof that it is possible for intelligent life to evolve on planets elsewhere in the universe. Please tell me, what is a demon exactly? and why is it more believable that the "Greys" are demons than Aliens? I am genuinely curious as to what your answer is. Please don't tell me "because the bible says so".

To the OP. Great thread, well thought out. I have pondered over this theory as well. Though I do lean toward them being from another planet as it just seems to be the more logical answer in my opinion.

S&F


i agree its statistically wayyyyy more likely to be from another planet, or even 'dimension'. but if you factor in that they are HUMANOID!!! it gets very sol-terrestrial..





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