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A secret videotape of Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney talking at a private fundraising event earlier this year could revive—in virulent form— the debate Texas Gov. Rick Perry started last year when he complained of “the injustice that nearly half of all Americans don’t even pay any income tax.”
Romney at his most candid and impolitic.
Here’s part of what he had to say:
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what.
All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.
That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax….
"[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take responsibility and care for thier lives
let me make a few serious points about the 46.4% of American households who paid no federal income taxes for 2011.
First of all, according to the Tax Policy Center, more than 60% of those non-income tax paying households did pay federal payroll taxes—meaning Social Security and Medicare taxes. (Considering all Americans households, including those that owed income tax, 62% paid more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes.)
What of the 18.1% of U.S. households that paid neither income nor payroll taxes? More than half of them were headed by a senior–in other words, by someone who paid payroll taxes and likely some income taxes too, in the past.
Tax Policy Center researchers calculate that 16.7 million elderly households will pay no tax in 2011 because of those two breaks and a special low income credit for the elderly.
By comparison, the earned income tax credit, the child credit and the child care credit combined keep only 11.5 million households with kids from paying income tax.
Of course, it goes without saying, that those folks who aren’t paying federal taxes are almost all paying state and local taxes—state sales taxes, real estate taxes (either on their homes or built into their rents) and possibly state income taxes too, since those taxes tend to exempt fewer poor families than does the federal income tax. If they buy gasoline, liquor or tobacco, or have telephones, they’re also feeding the federal purse.
Not all of those escaping income taxes have modest incomes, however. In 2009, according to Internal Revenue Service studies, six of the 400 U.S. tax filers with the highest adjusted gross income (meaning AGI of at least $77 million) paid no U.S. income tax, while 19,551 U.S. households with income above $200,000 owed no U.S. or foreign income tax.
Originally posted by ELectricalApprentice
He's projecting his own evils onto 47% of the population. All the things he accuses them of, the accused could also say about him.
Originally posted by thepresident
Swimming pools Across America will now be 2 feet deep!
Dive on in, head first!!!
Originally posted by Thunderheart
reply to post by Indigo5
No they don't, it isn't paying taxes if you get it refunded at the end of the year, sometimes they get more than they paid in.
Originally posted by schuyler
You are right, of course, that the word "taxes" encompasses more than Federal Income Taxes.
By manipulating the word "taxes" you can prove anything you want.
However, the fact is that 47% of citizesn pay NO Federal Income taxes.
Originally posted by schuyler
It is ALSO true that 47% of the country is on food stamps or some other sort of govrnment "assistance." The following figures are directly from the IRS and reflect 2010:
federal income taxes account for just 27% of total government revenue collected in America. And the remaining three-quarters of the tax pie is quite regressive. The middle class may not pay much federal income tax. But they sure pay the payroll tax for Social Security and Medicare, which the rich can mostly skip out on since it only applies to the first $110,000 of wage income. (The Medicare levy, unlike its bigger Social Security counterpart, is not capped). The masses also pay a much greater share of their income in sales and excise taxes than the rich do, because they cannot afford to save.
The fact of the matter is that the American tax code as a whole is almost perfectly flat. The bottom 20% of earners make 3% of the income and pay 2% of the taxes; the middle 20% make 11% and pay 10%; and the top 1% make 21% and pay 22%. Steve Forbes couldn’t have drawn it up any better.
Originally posted by Thunderheart
reply to post by Indigo5
No they don't, it isn't paying taxes if you get it refunded at the end of the year, sometimes they get more than they paid in.
Originally posted by thepresident
Mitt is the exalted savior who has come to save
America with overt globalist corporatism.
I paid income tax when I was working at McDonalds at
The age of 16.
America's mentality is sinking into the depths past all measures
Of idiocy. Mitt is your guy, sound bites are your future!
Swimming pools Across America will now be 2 feet deep!
Dive on in, head first!!!
Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by Indigo5
Friendly warning to others, this page crashed my FF browser twice in a row.
Originally posted by tkwasny
Originally posted by thepresident
Mitt is the exalted savior who has come to save
America with overt globalist corporatism.
I paid income tax when I was working at McDonalds at
The age of 16.
America's mentality is sinking into the depths past all measures
Of idiocy. Mitt is your guy, sound bites are your future!
Swimming pools Across America will now be 2 feet deep!
Dive on in, head first!!!
Unless you made over about $16,000 at year total, when you filed your income tax, you got it all back.
You did file an income tax, right?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The fact that Mitt Romney said these 47% wouldn't be attracted to his "lower tax message" proves that even HE doesn't believe "trickle down" works. Because if he thought it worked, he would be talking TO the poor, the dependent... He'd be trying to get their votes. But he's given up on them instead, thinking their the "moochers" of Ayn Rand fame. And he's a "producer"??? What does he produce? Except bigger bank accounts for himself and the rest of the 1%??