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Originally posted by Baldryck
I have found over the years, that the news really isn't the news. It tends to be reporters reporting what their 'sources' tell them and generally their 'sources' are other reporters who hear their news from other reporters. Then the politicians listen to the third or fourth hand information and use that information as gospel. Which in turn the reporters report.
Sometimes what really happened never get's reported or if it does it's mixed in with all the other 'stories' that were reported. So no one really knows what exactly happened except for the people there at the time.
I just read all sides of a story and look for the consistencies. With this particular story the only thing that's consistent is that the man died. I have a feeling we will never know exactly what happened or why. Too much speculation from all parties and sides.
Originally posted by Speckle
I also believe that the "embassy" would probably been better off if it was located in a hotel. Considering that the CIA just orchestrated a hostile take over of a target they drooled over for 30 years, how do you allow the embassy to be in a villa?
Lt. Col. Brian Linvill served as the embassy’s defense attaché from 2008 until June of this year, and he visited the compound in Benghazi several times, he explained in a lengthy interview with The Daily Beast on Thursday. The thing to remember about that compound, he said, is that it was an outpost, a hastily arranged location moved to that spot after a car bomb attack last June at the Tibesti Hotel, then the region’s gathering place for rebel leaders, diplomats, and journalists. The attack made clear that security at that location wasn’t adequate, Linvill said, so State decided to pack up and move.
Eugene Rogan, director of the Middle East Center at Britain’s Oxford University, was skeptical of how much advance planning went into the assault. “The State Department is going to have to exhaust every possible cause for the violence that took place. It is an extraordinary thing to have one of your ambassadors murdered in this way. And they will have to get to the bottom of what happened. I think you will find that the spread of anger across the Arab world in response to this recent posting of this very inflammatory and insulting film against Islam is something that they are going to have to address.” He believes the makers of the movie and the posting of the trailer dubbed in Arabic was done to provoke “knowingly and willingly."
There were conflicting reports of the circumstances surrounding the deaths Tuesday night. Al-Jazeera reported Stevens died of smoke inhalation after a mob attacked the consulate and set it on fire. Reuters, citing an unnamed Libyan official, said the four Americans died after militants fired rockets at their car in Benghazi.
Originally posted by PatriotGames2
Ambassador Chris Stevens was still breathing as video emerges showing Libyans trying to rescue him
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Videographer among Libyan civilians who roamed through the consulate after rampage over anti-Islam film last week said he heard someone call out he had tripped over a dead body, but ‘he was alive.’
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Originally posted by Speckle
reply to post by newcovenant
are you foaming at the mouth? Why would you reference my statement and then spew off a bunch of crap? Not one word of your pathetic dialogue has anything to do with what I stated. I think this is a huge reason why the world distrusts the Arab community. I say this , you say that. Basically lying to prove your point, if there is one. Its like asking a taxi in NYC for the most direct route from a to b. 9 out of 10 times the arab driver will take you out of the way , although you know the best route If you are done asking for the worlds sympathy and are ready to accept females as equals, let me know. Otherwise you will be treated as savages. And by the way , keep it up, you might even get a Mitt Romney in the office. I bet that will work wonders for the middle east.edit on 18-9-2012 by Speckle because: (no reason given)edit on 18-9-2012 by Speckle because: (no reason given)
Nor is the rape entirely allegorical. According to the Arabic website Tayyar, “the American ambassador in Libya [Christopher Stevens] was sexually raped before being killed by the gunmen who stormed the embassy building in Benghazi last night [Tuesday, September 11], in protestation of a film insulting to the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him.”