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Romney in secretly taped video: Obama voters ‘dependent’ on government

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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:00 AM
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Also,


After 10 years of US-led war in Afghanistan, the country remains the world’s leading opium supplier, responsible for 90 percent of the global supply, according to the United Nations.


www.csmonitor.com...

Trying to find some figures for this, but Afghanistan's GDP is 20 bil and I'm willing to bet that the worldwide opium trade is worth close to that or more. Wikipedia has opium at 50% of their GDP, but another page says 100% of Afghan opium trade is illegal. Not sure what to make of that.

Regardless of specifics, a lot of opium money from Afghanistan is ending up in American hands, for sure.




posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Being one of the 42% that suports the 47% well working for the 1%, I'm suprised it's only 47%? I would have thought with barack hussien obama's hatred of capitalism and the communist policies he pushes it would be well over that.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
Wow you people are brainwashed. Did you not hear the end of his speech? Do I have to post the quote again?


LOL! This from a guy who supports a man who is backed by the mass media AND Hollywood. Both groups lie to you on a regular basis sand mold your mind to whatever will keep Democrats and Obama in power. Like it or not, the establishment hates Romney. you're part of the big brother party. Not that Republicans are much better, but at least Hollywood and the MSM aren't fond of them. Means they're doing something right.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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Good to know he is an ally of Israel



Seeing how much he has made in "campaign donations" from Israel which is illegal he is not an ally. He's just another bought and paid for Zionist tool which is very bad for America.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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The establishment has been pretty good to Romney for a guy they hate. A couple Harvard degrees, CEO of a top private equity firm, a few hundred million, governor of a major state, presidential nomination.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Might be lower if (trying to reciprocate your terminology) Bush didn't have hatred toward a stable financial industry. Obama didn't push for nationalizing the banks, which is what a true socialist would have done.
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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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Romney was spot on with his honest comment. The truth hurts and in the reality of the total context of Romney's statement he is clearly speaking about not being able to rely on these people for their support. They have too much at stake with Obama at the helm.

The numbers say it all... Record numbers on SNAP program, record number unemployed, record numbers dropping out completely, record numbers on disability etc etc. Couple that with a taxpayer funded ad campaign to sell the SNAP program and for the Fed. govt. to give bonuses to states who increase their numbers on this program and you have to wonder why.

Romney would love to see as many people as possible become less dependent or completely independent of the govt. Period. Simple.. End of Story.... Obama and his handlers have done quite well at creating an entitlement society that must repay him with their votes...and the MSM helps to sell it and push it. Entitlements good...success and wealth bad....Just accept your fate and take your monthly block of cheese... Sounds like a modern day caste society...



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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Obama didn't create an entitlement society, that was FDR and LBJ. He happened to preside over a period of time when those entitlements were most needed, because of a major economic panic.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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The establishment hates Romney? LOL

Who do you think nominated Romney for presidential candidate? THE ESTABLISHMENT.... Do you think the GOP isn't part of the establishment? What reality do you live in?

The MSM hates Romney? As told to you in your other thread CNN and FOX loves him.




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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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...and water is wet, the clear day sky is blue, and steel is harder than a pillow.

Masters of the obvious unite!



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Romney in secretly taped video: Obama voters ‘dependent’ on government

That's not what he said.

He said a certain percentage of the American public think they are entitled to the government handouts. And that those people will vote for Obama because Romneys plan isn't attractive for them. Thats VERY different from him saying a blanket statement that 'Obama voters are dependent on government'.

I think the 'percentage' he gave is probably way off .. but the fact is that he is correct. A certain percentage of people do use the government as their 'way of life' and those people won't vote for Romney.


He always says the president you don't have to be Einstein to know that he is talking about Obama.




posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Those same banks donated MORE to Obama in 2008 when he destroyed all previous fund raising records. That should tell you all that you need to know.... The banks back those who they think will help them the most and right now it seems like Ben Bernake is their number one buddy for all the tricks he is pulling with the Federal Reserve all in an attempt to save Obama...

Brace yourself for some record inflation... you'll feel it at the grocery store (if you actually pay for your own groceries) and at the gas pump...(don't think snap cards work there
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Your source is full of neato info
www.opensecrets.org...
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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke





Mitt Romney told a group of donors in a surreptitiously taped private fundraiser that voters who back President Obama are "entitled" and "dependent on government."

Romney seems to be referring to the estimated 47 percent of Americans who did not owe federal income taxes in 2011 because their incomes were so low that they qualified for a tax credit, or because they didn't work at all. Last year, 22 percent of people who didn't owe income taxes were elderly people on Social Security, and an additional 17 percent were students, disabled people or the unemployed. More than 60 percent of the group were low-income workers, many of whom qualified for the child tax credit or the earned income tax credit. (These workers did pay payroll taxes for Social Security and other programs.)


Maybe people don't want to vote for you because your campaign is weak, you're creepy, you're at a disconnect with 99% of the country, and you're boring. Ever think about that? Just admit that you're unlikable...don't blame it on people "dependent" on the government. Maybe you helped those people come dependent, you outsourced their jobs did you not?

He's sitting here going on about healthcare when he is the one that was the first to start the individual mandate. And what does he want to do? Impose an income tax on people that do not have an income? Like 18 yr old college students? I don't get his point about taxes. Tax people that have no money already?

Romney = GROSS



Perhaps ROMNEY is RIGHT ! You're lazy, don't want to work for what you have and you expect NANNY government to continue to let you suck off its tit and completely be irresponsible. This is the PROBLEM with the
Government in America today.

There has been a long standing RULE in any SOCIETY on the planet and its about to HIT HOME RUNS in America .... IF YOU DON"T WORK, YOU DON"T EAT !

In my area of West Texas, there are JOBS all over the place that are not being filled because of people leaving them to work in the Oil Field. So the EXCUSE that you might use to justify sucking on the Government tit just to keep from being a productive member of society is BOGUS.

If you have KIDS and a FAMILY to take care of, you better be MAN enough to get out do whatever it takes job wise to earn a living. That's the bottom line.

Yeah, I know, I sound harsh, but the reality is the JOBS that we are missing in America are MANUFACTURING JOBS because our economy was a MANUFACTURING based ecosystem. Today, it is being transformed into a SERVICE BASED ecosystem and NO ONE will get rich if you're mowing my yard while I'm fixing your computer.

The FACT of the Matter is that we need to REVOKE our support of NAFTA / GATT in order to force American Companies to quit OutSourcing Jobs to Asia and the Middle Eastern Countries. We need to bring MANUFACTURING back to the UsA and that won't happen until NAFTA/GATT is revoked or repealed.

Now, you can slam me all you want to, but I am old enough, wise enough, to know how to fix this country and the economy. Ross Perot was right about how NAFTA / GATT would harm American business. Nobody Listened to him and see where we are right now ?

Do Not flame me. Understand I see the situation. We have YOUTH in this country from 20 years ago that jump jobs like changing underwear. That is flat wrong. No one young understands the concepts of staying in a job to build up a pension and retirement, making a CAREER instead of a higher paycheck with no hope of a retirement in their future for themselves and their children and grandchildren.

So, go ahead, continue to DEPEND upon GOVERNMENT for all your needs to be filled. When you finally get the motivation to get off of it, you won't be able to because NANNY GOVERNMENT will have their thumb on your head to keep holding you down to it. Have you no PRIDE and no SELF RESPECT to get away from NANNY GOVERNMENT ?

YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY a SLAVE, and have WILLINGLY put yourself into SLAVERY !
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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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Well that tells me one thing about the ole boy.

He is the worlds biggest prick.

Maybe he can fix the budget after all.

But i just do not think he has what it takes to be the potus.

And his view on world affairs will more than likely take us to the big war.

I just don't like this fellow at all and he's still a prick.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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The establishment hates Romney? LOL

Who do you think nominated Romney for presidential candidate? THE ESTABLISHMENT.... Do you think the GOP isn't part of the establishment? What reality do you live in?

The MSM hates Romney? As told to you in your other thread CNN and FOX loves him.


No you played a couple objective clips from MSM sources and yoy think that changes the 24 hour. non-stop MSM Obama re-election campaign.





Oh wow, Fox must hate Romney!


The media and Hollywood are so in the tank for Obama is disgusting. You are on the side of mass brainwashing.



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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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For those that say that Romney told the truth, so half of all Americans are lazy and hate work!! It is amazing the nonsense the sheeple will believe. I guess that means the middle class deserves to be taken advantage of by the elite like Romney
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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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Well, my local news station did a poll on his comment, and I am not surprised by the results so far.
www.wlns.com...


So much for being out of touch with the general public.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:14 AM
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Sorry dude.
Totally disagree with you on this one. Take a step away from the MMS for second and take a look around.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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There should be a 20% flat tax on EVERY income that is not considered in poverty. Get rid of Medicaid / Medicare, or reform it as well as reform health insurance. So it stays profitable, but benefits the consumer more consistently, and not, " sorry, you got cancer, see ya."

I do not want Government healthcare. I do not want to wait for weeks to get to a doctor. If you don't have health insurance, get a job. If you cant, you are most likely on medicaid any how.

It is not my responsibility to ensure you are healthy, and neither is it the government's responsibility. If you are in danger, of course i will help, but if you are sick, sounds personal.

Women also do not have a right to birth control, that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of in my life. You have a right to take care of yourself and be responsible for yourself.
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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:16 AM
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I think Obama himself would vote yes to that, it really doesn't reflect on Romney's comments.

You could just as easily poll, do you think poor elderly people should be taxed on social security? And most would say no.

And let's be honest. Everyone is dependent on the govt to an extent. Do you drive on roads? Use stoplights? Trade in dollars?

I know the poll is implying benefits, but the government facilitates our entire society.
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