Originally posted by AQuestion
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by borntowatch
Thats a fair interpretation of the event in that chapter. The essential message Jesus was conveying was it doesn't matter who you are, if you
believe in him it is enough for him and your faith purifies you. She believed, she asked and she recieved.
I disagree, even the devil knows who he is and understands who he is. It is not enough, we must have minds renewed with his, we must be of love or we
are of the Devil. Many will confess his name and he will tell them that he never knew them because they did not have the heart and mind of Christ, the
heart of forgiveness and love. Who you are matters completely, you have to have a heart that loves God and others as much as you love yourself or it
is all meaningless, you can meet every rule and still die to sin. It is not about rules, you can fail every rule, there is only one thing that is not
forgivable, the choice to be completely self centered. Out traditions make void the word of God because it is not about ritual or rules, it is about
our hearts, in my humble opinion. Peace.
If having love is what makes you a child of God then hindus, buddhists, wiccans, satanists and a ton of other things are all children of God and
you're pushing ecumenism and you negate Jesus being the truth the way and the life. Messiah was not some jumped up super hippie, he excersiced
justice and the entire point of him creating the messianic movement was to give the religious pharisees and other sects fallen into apostacy enough
rope to hang themselves with. To top it off he then began preaching in parables when they told him he had a demon, the parables were so they could not
gain understanding and recieve salvation, in essence he damned them.
39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
40 Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?”
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.
46 And He said, “Woe to you also, lawyers! For you load men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your
fingers. 47 Woe to you! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. 48 In fact, you bear witness that you approve the deeds
of your fathers; for they indeed killed them, and you build their tombs. 49 Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and
apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ 50 that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may
be required of this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you,
it shall be required of this generation.
29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 and say,
‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31 “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your
fathers’ guilt. 33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34 Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and
scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 that on you
may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered
between the temple and the altar. 36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
It doesn't matter if Heylel believes in Jesus, he cannot be redeemed because Jesus did not die for his sins, the above verses were where Jesus
(Yeshua) was exacting justice. It's not about having love, it's about loving righteousness and obeying his voice which has become our (believers)
conscience. All people may be God''s creation, but not all people are his children, that is called ecumenism.