reply to post by JABERWOCKYSUPERFLY
Furthermore as much as I hate to quote this because of the source its pretty supportive of my point.
"Religion is a difficult thing to define. Various definitions have been proposed, many of which emphasize a belief in the supernatural. But such
definitions break down on closer inspection for several reasons. They fail to deal with religions which worship non-supernatural things in their own
right (for example Jainism, which holds that every living thing is sacred because it is alive, or the Mayans who worshiped the sun as a deity in and
of itself rather than a deity associated with the sun)5; they fail to include religions such as Confucianism and Taoism which focus almost exclusively
on how adherents should live, and the little they do say about supernatural issues such as the existence of an afterlife is very vague; they also
don’t deal with religious movements centred around UFOs—which believe that aliens are highly (evolutionarily) advanced (but not supernatural)
The point being that religion can fall under a number of catagories, just as Athieism. Even in the dictionary's own contradictive use/definition of
the word it contains subsets of definitons such as
"...2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects...
...3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices...
...5.something of overwhelming importance to a person: football is his religion..."
"In the dictionary, the most common definition of religion is something like, “the service and worship of God or the
supernatural.” By this definition, Atheism is clearly not a religion. However, the United States Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that Atheism
warrants the same protection as all other religions, and has spoken of “religions based on a belief in the existence of God [and] religions founded
on different beliefs." This, obviously, contradicts the main dictionary definition
If you truly believe that there is no god, how is that different from believing that there is a god? Both are positions on a fundamentally religious
question that must ultimately rest on faith. Therefore, atheism is just another form of religion."
Or how about Smarts 7 dimensions of religion? Whether or not you can find all points included in any given relgion, this accepted research only
requires that 1 or more of the catagories be fulfilled to qualify as religion.
Professor Ninian Smart’s 7 dimensions of religion. (Widely accepted by anthropologists and researchers of religion as broadly covering the various
aspects of religion, without focusing on things unique to specific religions.)
Humanist Manifesto (According to a pledge to Atheism and the secular humanists statement, Atheists are considered to be humanists and secular
humanists are considered to be Atheists.)
3. Ethical…Rules about human behavior
6. Institutional…belief system is shared and attitudes practiced by a group.
Atheism? The only common thing atheists have is an unwillingness to believe in a divine entity without evidence. But this is a commonality.
Scientific institution itself?
Now, we clearly have derailed the original intent of the OP's post i'm sure by now, which I would have to apologize for. But frankly a responce was
due, like I said i'm not a religious person, but I do have a problem with both religious and those who consider themselves non-religious i.e. Athiest
constantly bickering back and fourth. The fact of the matter is who the *explicit* cares? I mean seriously, there are nuts on both sides of the fence
if you ask me, the stupid he started it or they did this first is old. We're not in grade school, if someone is proud of their relgion more power to
them, I could personally care less if they wanna tell me about God while i'm walking down the street, hell I live in the U.S. when isn't someone
trying to sell me something I already either have an opinion on or dont care about. And that goes for both sides, like I said I just like to argue
which is why I chose to take this side. But overall I could care less about what either side thinks or says, what I do have a problem with is ignorant
or flat out instisgative statements from both sides. Just let it go already, it lessens our overall being IMHO. But like I said in my first post. Its
a Free Country, your entitled to your opinions and i'm entitled to mine, but last time I checked we all have to live on this planet cause there's
nowhere else to go so wouldn't it be in all our best interests to attempt civility and getting along at some point. Be concerned with our own lives?
Side note* had I had time I would have done a better job editing this.