Originally posted by heathwithnoteeth
reply to post by bluestreak53

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well someone should buy this

www.ebay.com...:B:SHOP:US:101
not sure if there were more issues produced in august of that year, but as the name states "Aviation Week" then there may be four issues in August.

Originally posted by Chickensalad
reply to post by JimOberg

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I just wish others would allow people to freely read and research the topics they choose without being ridiculed for what they question.

I wish that those self appointed "answer men" would realize that they may be wrong, they may not know everything that they think they do, and first and foremost, understand that, just because I haven't typed up a synapses of everything I know, you can't assume to have an insight into what knowledge I may carry around in my head.

My two-cents

Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by heathwithnoteeth
reply to post by bluestreak53

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well someone should buy this

www.ebay.com...:B:SHOP:US:101
not sure if there were more issues produced in august of that year, but as the name states "Aviation Week" then there may be four issues in August.

Good idea, but unfortunately, the wrong issue. The correct issue was August 23rd, 1953 (according to this web source): www.presidentialufo.com...

The information was posted in one short paragraph:

Pentagon scare over the observance of two previously unobserved satellites orbiting the earth has dissipated with the identification of the objects as natural, not artificial satellites. Dr. Lincoln LaPaz, expert on extraterrestrial bodies from the University of New Mexico, headed the identification project. One satellite is orbiting about 400 miles out, while the other track is 600 miles from the earth. Pentagon thought momentarily the Russians had beaten the U.S. to space explorations.

I seemed to get the impression that Jim Oberg was pooh, poohing the discovery on the basis that asteroids don't just randomly come into earth's orbit. Exactly! But it appears that this was the explanation provided by LaPaz and Tombaugh. Additional news articles indicating that Clyde Tombaugh was engaged in a search for "orbiting satellites" were published in newspapers in early March 1954.

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
reply to post by Rubicant13

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counting outwards from the sun

This is the only part that I find a bit suspicious. The word sun is a human word that we have given our own star. The fact that they refer to their star as sun makes me think this is a human generated signal.

This is still extremely interesting nonetheless. Good post OP.

edit on 17-9-2012 by IamAbeliever because: (no reason given)

In 1956 Tombaugh had the following to say about his various sightings: "I have seen three objects in the last seven years which defied any explanation of known phenomenon, such as Venus, atmospheric optic, meteors or planes. I am a professional, highly skilled, professional astronomer. In addition I have seen three green fireballs which were unusual in behavior from normal green fireballs... I think that several reputable scientists are being unscientific in refusing to entertain the possibility of extraterrestrial origin and nature."[17][dead link]

Shortly after this in January 1957, in an Associated Press article in the Alamogordo Daily News titled "Celestial Visitors May Be Invading Earth's Atmosphere," Tombaugh was again quoted on his sightings and opinion about them. "Although our own solar system is believed to support no other life than on Earth, other stars in the galaxy may have hundreds of thousands of habitable worlds. Races on these worlds may have been able to utilize the tremendous amounts of power required to bridge the space between the stars..." Tombaugh stated that he had observed celestial phenomena which he could not explain, but has seen none personally since 1951 or 1952. "These things, which do appear to be directed, are unlike any other phenomena I ever observed. Their apparent lack of obedience to the ordinary laws of celestial motion gives credence."[18]

Tombaugh's offer may have led to his involvement in a search for near-Earth satellites, first announced in late 1953 and sponsored by the Army Office of Ordnance Research. Another public statement was made on the search in March 1954 (photo at right), emphasizing the rationale that such an orbiting object would serve as a natural space station.[21] However, according to Donald Keyhoe, later director of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP), the real reason for the sudden search was because two near-Earth orbiting objects had been picked up on new long-range radar in the summer of 1953, according to his Pentagon source.

By May 1954, Keyhoe was making public statements that his sources told him the search had indeed been successful, and either one or two objects had been found.[22] However, the story did not break until August 23, 1954, when Aviation Week magazine stated that two satellites had been found only 400 and 600 miles out. They were termed "natural satellites" and implied that they had been recently captured, despite this being a virtual impossibility. The next day, the story was in many major newspapers. Dr. LaPaz was implicated in the discovery in addition to Tombaugh. LaPaz had earlier conducted secret investigations on behalf of the Air Force on the green fireballs and other unidentified aerial phenomena over New Mexico. LaPaz vehemently denied his involvement in the search, although the New York Times reported on August 29 that a source close to the project said that the story was true and LaPaz was indeed involved, in fact had been the one to spot and identify the objects as natural rather than artificial satellites. The same source denied the search had anything to do with flying saucers.[23]

However, both the CIA and Air Force programs were in trouble. Launch after launch in the CORONA program, eleven in all by May 1, 1960, eight of which carried cameras, had resulted in failure--the only variation was in the cause. Meanwhile, the SAMOS program was also experiencing difficulties, both with regard to hardware and program definition.

Concerns over SAMOS led President Eisenhower to direct two groups to study both the technical aspects of the program as well as how the resulting system would be employed. The ultimate result was a joint report presented to the President and NSC on August 25, 1960.

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Phage

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I agree. But if it did happen, the importance of that sighting is staggering. I love the story of it, and the fact that there is a certain amount of name dropping used in reference to that sighting makes me wonder.