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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Phony Polls Cut Both Ways Posted by thekeenobserver on Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:32:31 AM

What if they held an election and nobody showed up? Right now, as we speak, EVERY national poll shows Romney losing.

But think about it: Obama's polls are purposely skewed to show him leading, so they can keep the money flowing into his coffers. No one will give money to someone who is LOSING.

Pitifully, Obama is begging for those $10 donations from the people on food stamps, who cannot afford gas for their car, too poor to register to vote. He wants money for his birthday, your birthday, your wedding, his anniversary. It's so sick and low life, and reeks of desperation.

Now, about those polls. All across the fruited plain, Obama's policies have separated countless American workers from their jobs. Imagine the vitriol and anger that's been building for the last three years.

Then there's the Obama war on coal. Neverthelss, these so-called "polls" put Ohio and PA virtually out of reach for Romney, with some showing Obama up by ten.

This is almost laughable.

One cannot imagine that Ohio & Pennsylvania, two huge coal states, would want to vote for Obama. He will only spend billions on more windmills and "green" cars, which are built in other countries; and the owners of these companies who get the billions are all Obama's wealthy contributors.

Understandably, most voters do not realize just how incredibly easy it is to rig a poll in favor of one candidate versus the other. Hence, ANECDOTAL evidence is by far the more reliable indicator.

In Pennsylvania, in the most recent poll, the "Philadelphia Inquirer" shows Obama up by 11 points statewide. BUT when you get into the details things look very different.

The Inquirer poll used about 950 registered voters, but 860 were from the Philadelphia and surrounding areas. Only 110 were from outside the SE corner of the state, with 40 being from Pittsburgh.

Ergo, this particular poll is not a snapshot of the state, but rather from the Philly region; plus the sample rate matches Philadelphia registrations and grossly over counts democrats by about 10 points.

Interestingly, Obama won this region in PA by 18% in 2008. Hence, if Obama really has an 10 point lead in this area, he is in trouble.

keenobserver.blogtownhall.com...




posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Ergo, this particular poll is not a snapshot of the state, but rather from the Philly region; plus the sample rate matches Philadelphia registrations and grossly over counts democrats by about 10 points.

Interestingly, Obama won this region in PA by 18% in 2008. Hence, if Obama really has an 10 point lead in this area, he is in trouble.


Meh…..


Obama will win in Philly and all urban areas because he’s got the magic weapon, man!!



All he’s got to do is dazzle them with free stuff and shiny things!




posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Really?
"Urban" people are so stupid that they will vote for Obama just for 120 free minutes and a free cell phone with no features on it?

You sure you feel that way?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
Of course, there isn't any reason for that since Reps won't strip benefits from current collectors


And none of them have children or grandchildren they care about a future existing for. They all got theirs, screw everyone else, right?
My grandparents love me. They want me to not die in the street because I am too old and too expensive to insure when I turn 65.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Maybe you can get a phone Seabag, and call someone who cares.

You can skew the Polls all you want, Romney is losing the Swing States , and the Debates havent started yet.



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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Obama 50%, Romney 47% (MOE = +/-3.5%)

Cnn/Orc polls "magically" tighten as calendar turns.

Source:
Battle for presidency remains close in new CNN poll Posted by CNN Political Unit
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...

See Also:
Cnn/Orc Poll: Unskewed...Romney Up 8
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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"Politico Poll: Romney Up 2 In Battleground States"

A new poll from the left-leaning website Politico, shows Romney 49% vs Obama 47% in battleground states.

Excerpt:

But, in the more numerous and more important "toss up" states, Romney leads by 4, hitting the critical 50% threshold.

In the slightly different category of "battleground" states identified by Politico, Romney leads by 2, 49-47. Romney's lead over Obama is powered primarily by his edge with independents. Romney leads Obama by 4 among the important swing voters. By 11 points, these voters think Romney would do better on the economy than Obama, 51-40.

Source:
Politico: Romney Up 4 in 'Toss Up' States by Mike Flynn
www.breitbart.com...

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posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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Election 2012: Virginia President
Virginia: Romney 49%, Obama 48%

www.rasmussenreports.com... esident



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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Tomorrow's ABC News Poll: Obama 49%, Romney 46% with Democrats oversampled by 9% (among likely voters)

Last month's poll when Romney was trailing in all swing states, had Democrats oversampled by 4%. The MSM is driving the "narrative" for an Obama comeback and want you to believe since the debate, the Democrats have become more energized.

I'm not buying it.

In addition to the "narrative," they say 87% of registered voters are certain they will vote. Which means in this election, 87% of the country will vote. Compare that to 60% of the country in 2008.

"Partisan divisions in this survey, Democrats-Republicans-independents, are 33-22-37 percent among the general population, 34-25-36 percent among registered voters and 35-26-33 percent among likely voters. Partisan divisions in the 2008 exit poll were 39-32-29 percent."

Enthusiasm Rises for Romney; Obama Has a ‘Right-Track’ Retort By Gary Langer
abcnews.go.com...
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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 05:20 AM
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aethertek,

You want to talk intrade?

Look these stats up:

September 29, 2004
Kerry up 86 to 14 on intrade.

November 2, 2004
Kerry up 90 to 10 on intrade.


Originally posted by aethertek
Remember that old saying that "Money talks & BS walks"?
Well the money says four more years, people putting up cold hard cash not partisan trash say Obama for the win.



www.intrade.com...

All these anti Obama threads started every damn day are starting to smell like weak desperation.
Why don't you start pro Rmoney threads instead touting all the wonderful policies he has, right you can't because his whole campaign thus far has been the usual empty sloganeering.

He would do to this country just what he did with all those companies he bankrupted, he & his buddies get richer while he sells you out to the highest bidder.
But go ahead vote the billionaires boy into power, because people like Rmoney, Adelson & the Koch bros care so much about people like you.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 05:38 AM
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Or this one in which will put Romney in the White House:

Jun 28, 2012
SCOTUS To Uphold Individual Mandate down 33 to 67 on intrade.



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posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Still A Tight Race:

RASMUSSEN THURSDAY: Romney 49%, Obama 47%

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll in Politics Thursday, November 01, 2012

Battleground States:


New surveying for Monday night finds Romney ahead of the president 50% to 47% in the key swing state of Colorado. That marks little change from a week ago, and the state remains a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Electoral College Projections.



In Wisconsin, surveying from Monday night finds the race remains tied at 49%, just like last week. Wisconsin, too, is still a Toss-Up and is critical to Romney’s fortunes if he loses Ohio.



We will release new numbers out of Iowa later today.


Methodology:

Suffice to say Gallup and Rasmussen, over samples Republicans +3, While most others have Democrats +8. This late in the game, every pollster's reputation is on the line. We'll find out which pollster had the most accurate methodology come election day.
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posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Keep thinking RASMUSSEN's poll are any indicator of who's winning. Obama is easily winning the real key swing states (Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin and Nevada). Not to mention he's gaining momentum in Florida, New Hampshire, Virginia and Colorado.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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Since you've been so persistent, I thought I would finally reply.

First,
& secondly I guess you do live up to your username.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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Lots of crow to be eaten around here.

Hope we have enough to go around.





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