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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Political leaders in Australia have condemned Sydney's violent Islamic protests as the "unacceptable face of multiculturalism".


Some protesters allegedly threw glass bottles and other missiles at police, forcing officers to use capsicum spray during the violence that led to six police and 17 others being injured.

The Australian




NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell condemned the Sydney riot as the unacceptable face of multiculturalism


NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell said he was “horrified” by the street battles and clashes with police yesterday. He said such protests undermined Australia's successful multicultural society.

“We don't need to bring from overseas ethnic protest to this country, we certainly shouldn't bring from overseas religious conflicts.

“We've got 200 different nationalities in this city but what we saw yesterday was the unacceptable face of multiculturalism,” Mr O'Farrell said.

The Australian


Tony Abbot, Leader of the Opposition in the Australian House of Representatives stated that people are expected to surrender their hatreds when they come to Australia.


Tony Abbott said the ugly scenes did not fairly reflect the Islamic people of Australia.

The Opposition Leader said newcomers to Australia were not expected to surrender their heritage, but were expected to surrender their hatreds.

The Australian


Senator Barnaby Joyce questioned the long term future for Australia if such riots were replicated across every city in the future.


Senator Barnaby Joyce said politicians should speak out to protect Australia “from what we might become years down the track”.

“It's not xenophobic to ask what is in your national interest and what values we support and what actions we will condone,” Senator Joyce told the Nationals' federal conference in Canberra.

“The structure of the nation we have here is something that just will not work if that type of behaviour was to be replicated across every city.”

The Australian


Senator Barnaby Joyce makes a fair point. Where is Australia, and the West in general, going in the long term if it allows large scale Islamic immigration while prompting multiculturalism? Clearly, as Tony Abbott points out, the immigrants have brought their hatred with them.

Would Australia have more success integrating Islamic immigrants and preventing them from rioting, if it made an effort to integrate Muslims to take on Western values?

Multiethnic but not multicultural?


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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Would Australia have more success integrating Islamic immigrants and preventing them form rioting, if it made an effort to integrate Muslims to take on Western values
I'm not entirely sure I get your whole drift.

Are you saying that you would persuade them to convert to High Church? If they remain as Muslims, as I think you meant, how do you keep everything calm when a mini-dress goes by, or someone passes in front of a Mosque smoking a cigarette and walking a dog? Would you ban sausage shops within 100 meteres of a Mosque? Would you allow offensive images to be shown?

In short, what price are you willing to pay to keep them from burning your city as an infidel stronghold?



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
I'm not entirely sure I get your whole drift.

Are you saying that you would persuade them to convert to High Church?


I'm suggesting that they are encouraged to take on Western values, which would include not taking their religion quite so literally or seriously.

The sad fact is, Western countries are not having enough children to maintain the population. We need immigrants.





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posted on Sep, 17 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Or, you know, not killing people over something someone in another country did or said.

That's not really what these are about, these folks are being used just like any mob with a purpose. But, still.



posted on Sep, 17 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Dear ollncasino,

I'm sorry if I sounded critical, I didn't mean to be, I just thought the path you proposed sounded like it would be a little difficult.


I'm suggesting that they are encouraged to take on Western values, which would include not taking their religion quite so literally or seriously.
I would agree with you, that that is a good goal.

I'm not sure how converting any religious fundamentalist to a moderate would go. I suspect it would be tough to work on Christians as well. Would the rest of the Islamic world be upset at the government's attempt to "water down" their followers' religion?

I really do like your idea, but I'm in a pessimistic mood this week, and the idealistic and imaginative portions of my brain are taking a vacation. Sorry.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Sep, 17 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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The sad fact is, Western countries are not having enough children to maintain the population. We need immigrants.


I have heard Australian politicians say this before. Why is there always a need to boost populations?

Iceland is doing just fine, without a huge population.

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posted on Sep, 17 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Pedro4077

I have heard Australian politicians say this before. Why is their always a need to boost populations?



Because too few people will be working in the future to care for the old.

Australia's women are only producing 1.77 children each, while 2.1 is required to maintain the population.

I don't have the exact figures at hand, but while there are about 5 people working for every one person retired at the moment in Australia, by about 2050, there will be only just over 2.

And that's with the immigration!





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