a reply to: ctj83
Things advance all the time as new info' comes forward as you'll appreciate. I was given information about a military unit using an outhouse at a
property along the Ceidiog Valley which was rented from the owner. The info was given in good faith, but wrong. When supplied, the informant believed
based on his memory that the unit occupied the outhouse at the time of the Berwyn event. However this was not true. Or seemingly so.
I left a note at the property asking the owner to contact me. Some time passed but I received a reply and was invited to the place. It transpired that
the owner had died and relatives in the West Midlands had inherited the property. A very nice couple who listened to what I had to say. They had heard
of the Berwyn UFO and were interested in their property's possible involvement.
It turned out that the MoD had approached the former owner and requested that a unit of men be billeted in said outhouse. A rent was offered for its
use and inconvenience of the owner. I tried to recover details of the bill/receipts etc via a FOI but turned up nothing.
The men were stationed there in February 1982 while the Hawker trainer plane, dead pilot and debris was removed, which crashed on the 12th. When
everything was sorted and settled, the then owner received a framed picture of a RAF search & rescue helicopter as a thank you. I was shown and
The Berwyn case is far from over. I've recently turned my attention to another part of the Range because of some disruption to the surface vegetation
in a very remote but accessible part of the moorland.
The whole of the Berwyn case starts before the 23rd of Jan' '74. This date only becomes a focal point because of the likes of Pat Evans seeing what
she saw and how she came to see it. It seems there were observations of aerial lights in the vicinity of the Berwyns before the 23rd and thereafter
too. The diary entry of an occasional meteorologist and former gamekeeper at Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant records a seemingly hovering UFO near that
village some time after the 23rd. It is my belief that a vehicle of extra terrestrial origin for whatever reason was coming down on the mountainside
of Cader Berwyn prior to the 23rd and on the 23rd, an operation was mounted against it, to collect data and shoo it off. I believe there was an
organised military event in operation and the reason they were there where the UFO came down is because they were reasonably expecting it. Also, that
night was chosen because there was a scheduled meteor shower which would provide a cover story if detection occurred, which it did. Debunkers used the
meteor shower to try and discredit any sighting of aerial lights etc. That shooing might sound crazy, but its position was so exposed even if very
difficult to reach on foot, that if there was a concerted effort to deny the public knowledge of ET visitation, it is a lot harder to rubbish if
multiple witnesses observe one.
However, on the 23rd, lots seemingly went wrong and warranted extra effort to contain. Don't forget, if it hadn't been for Pat Evans' observation,
there would be no UFO event. If it hadn't been for disjointed and dishonest military/Police cooperation, Mrs Evans would have been directed to
Llandrillo and the area of a Police search to offer her medical assistance and had she gone there, there would be no Berwyn UFO event. The Police at
Colwyn Bay knew full well their officers were conducting a search for a suspected plane crash above Llandrillo, an event they could not ignore even if
Gwynedd Constabulary (as it was then until April 1974) was aware of a military operation on the mountains. They deliberately misled Pat Evans. They
deliberately failed to engage the local mountain rescue team too which had searched the Berwyns many times for various reasons but on this occasion
were ignored in favour of a three man team from Anglesey.
It was the earth tremor which brought the villagers from miles around from their homes and in so doing became aware of various events that they'd be
totally unaware of if that seismic activity had not occurred. The hunter's light above Llandrillo would not have been seen and thus no connection with
the tremor and light (singular by the way!) Thus, no major incident log or search by Police or RAF Valley search and rescue team etc, etc.
I've gotten nowhere with the turning circle. It was Richard Hall who actually discovered that. We'd met up to film the aforementioned outhouse and
after a bit of filming, he went off talking to some of the locals and as a result of one conversation was pointed in the direction of the plantation
through which the track goes and terminates at the circle.
The APEN stuff is as far as I'm concerned disinformation from Day 1. You'll be aware of its association with Berwyn and I believe it was an attempt to
discredit the 23rd of Jan' '74 event by associating UFO enthusiasts who might start poking about with the Far Right. It comes as no surprise to me
that Russ Kellett is a far right nut job. Terry Hooper is up to his eye balls in this and has been there in the back ground from the off. Once
Margaret Fry started looking into the case in the early 90s, Jenny Randles got increasingly frustrated as she wanted in on her research. Margaret Fry
started to distrust Randles more and more as she tried to monopolise the event and swerve public opinion towards the event occurring above Llandrillo
on the mid slopes of Cader Bronwen Mountain rather than on Cader Berwyn. Like Andy Roberts, she knew exactly where that object was but she tried to
divert the story to elsewhere, bringing her geiger counter/stone circle/leukaemia into the mix. Mrs Fry and Jenny Randles don't even communicate any
It was in the 90s that Hooper decided to send his metal fragment to Mrs Fry. She'd been researching UFO stuff since the late 1950s and was a direct
witness to the Bexley Heath UFO, but only she received a metal fragment from Hooper, only once she took up the Berwyn gauntlet. Considering his metal
was not UFO related, Hooper had many opportunities to pass that on to any random UFO researcher anywhere in Britain, but he didn't. It only appeared
when she started gleaning useful info' on the Berwyn event. Hooper I seem to recall once claimed he'd seen APEN material in a UFO enthusiasts's home.
I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with once again, only his word for it. He has produced ziltch to back up anything he has ever
claimed. Personally, I think he was trying to frame someone in order to distance himself from it. His whole mission seems to be about discrediting
innocent people who just happen to be UFO researchers. He'll do whatever it takes, including making a big scene over the 'misuse' of a town name.