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PEACEFUL "Muslim Protest" in my city today.

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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Around 200 Muslims gathered at City Hall Plaza for prayer and an information gathering to inform the public about the peaceful nature of Islam and to offer support for peace in Syria.

“This protest is not about a movie — this protest is about a story. This protest is about ending the story of hate and starting the story of love,” speaker Mahdi Qas Qas said.


www.calgarysun.com...





When protesters occupy or riot in the U.S, media reports it's "only a few people" but when it's in the Middle-East the media tends to portray it as the whole country in shambles. (Even though they are both newly "liberated" countries.)


See here in Calgary, not one incident after a few hour (and on going) protest. These people are living in a Western culture and contribute to our society just like all other Canadians a like. You see the disastrous photos of over in Libya and Egypt, and reports are saying it's only about 150 to 200 people directly involved when we're talking about a countries with MILLIONS of people. Great spin-doctors eh?


All religions are about peace and morals and the fact these riots in the M.E, in most cases directed as Western Embassies, are all to do with blow-back and people in general who are pissed off due to poor economy and sparse education. This has nothing to do with the mockery of a movie, even though that's what the media is trying to push that this is all about, nor IMO does it have to do with religion.
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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN


See here in Calgary, not one incident after a few hour (and on going) protest. These people are living in a Western culture and contribute to our society just like all other Canadians a like. You see the disastrous photos of over in Libya and Egypt, and reports are saying it's only about 150 to 200 people directly involved when we're talking about a countries with MILLIONS of people. Great spin-doctors eh?




Nods.Tips hat. Bids you good day.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by emberscott

Originally posted by CALGARIAN


See here in Calgary, not one incident after a few hour (and on going) protest. These people are living in a Western culture and contribute to our society just like all other Canadians a like. You see the disastrous photos of over in Libya and Egypt, and reports are saying it's only about 150 to 200 people directly involved when we're talking about a countries with MILLIONS of people. Great spin-doctors eh?




Nods.Tips hat. Bids you good day.


I don't mean "those people" I mean "these people" in the picture.
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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Thanks for posting this...

This was not covered on anything I watch.

I wish there was more of this. These people are very brave.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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The only thing missing is non-muslims who feel the same way.

Heck, if it were my neighborhood, I'd have shown up for that one.




posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by whyamIhere
Thanks for posting this...

This was not covered on anything I watch.

I wish there was more of this. These people are very brave.



It's not surprising that this wasn't covered in the media you watch because that would go against the Islamophobia that the MSM is trying to install in the public. This is the kind of protest that the Muslim brotherhood called for not the violence that broke out which they quickly condemned. For example the protests they led in Egypt were peaceful where both Muslims and Christians stood against the government and didn't become violent until Mubarak's goons showed up.
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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by whyamIhere
Thanks for posting this...

This was not covered on anything I watch.

I wish there was more of this. These people are very brave.



You know what else is also not covered? There was a protest in my city and we are in central Europe. 127 people got arrested today for rioting, throwing stones and bottles, burning flags, shouting hateful slogans etc. These people .. indeed.

ps. It's almost 9pm and the number is 200+
pics or it didn't happen

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posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing.

I wish all religious people were able to be this peaceful when it comes to protest.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Nice to see some Muslims getting out there and showing how they really feel. Just like any religion there are always a few bad apples who make the rest seem rotten.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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It is a nice start, but until they start protesting against their fellow Muslims who call for the death of anyone who insults their prophet, a peaceful protest is a very small gesture.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b

It is a nice start, but until they start protesting against their fellow Muslims who call for the death of anyone who insults their prophet, a peaceful protest is a very small gesture.


Funny thing that in Canada they hold protests against Israel, has been documented to contain hate speech, racism, anti-Semitism, and support for listed organizations that clearly exceed the limits of Canadian freedoms of free assembly and free speech.

If I see a rally against extremism, I might faint.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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Matthew 6:1-6 (KJV)
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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And so it begins.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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I am happy to see this.

Now, I know these particular Muslims, must have family in the Middle East. Its time for them to call their brothers, and sisters, and pass along this brilliant gesture.

Its also time for the mainstream media, to start doing the same.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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amongst all those mindless war & doom threads on ATS, this one deserves all the flags it can get.

second line needed? you're joking, right?



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Yeah. One would think protestation about Muslims killing Muslims in Syria would be energies better expended than running amok purportedly for some obscure, trivial video.

Nice to see the obviousness of this fact is not lost on all Muslims.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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The population here, are far more Canadian than in other places, especially out west. I've never seen a woman in a Burqa yet here in BC. So they must a pretty small population.

When Sharia was being phased into our Court Systems, the moderate group in Canada, were very much active speakers against it, they themselves raised a huge cry, and it was stopped.

They said, made articles in the news, that, they had left behind those harsh systems and certainly did not wish to return to it. And it wouldn't be voluntary, for it would become the expected norm in their mosques/temples if this went through.

Canada has a different culture. We always think we have none, but in reality we actually do. And its more human rights.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by jeramie
Matthew 6:1-6 (KJV)
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


It's all metaphors. It really is. That means this: not to be giving for the wrong reason, to look good in the eyes of others like often the higher ups in churches and communities do. But to give from your heart. To be humble and grateful.

It is not a literal expression. And people whose culture is to pray in public, all of them, are not judge by that, but by the intent of their hearts.

Also others share, ways to be generous and what they do, to encourage others, and their intent is to show the way, and they don't care if they get any rewards for doing so, on earth or in heaven, but only to try and help to the best of their ability and shine their light.

It doesnt meant what you are implying.

The bible is filled with metaphor!



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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Nice to see that everything is peaceful over there


Meanwhile in Australia:


















(Notice the Al Qaeda flag...)



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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All religions are about peace and morals


That's a baseless assumption, unfortunately.

Do you acknowledge the existence of Islamism? You mentioned it earlier so it appears that you do. If yes, then America didn't need to stage 911, but simply take advantage and even enable the Islamists to carry out a terrorist attack.

If you observe the metaphysics and theology of Islam, and of Ash'arite, Salafiya, Wahhabi, doctrine, along with the writings of Sayyed Qutb and his disciple, Hassan Al-Banna, founder of the Muslim brotherhood, there is a direct continuity of a certain metaphysical and theological doctrine from 700 CE to the modern era; the same ideas and mentality which Islam grew from, animates current Islamic mentality. Thus, there was bound to be conflict in our modern era between the west and Islam; a recurrence of the battles in the religious middle ages.

Therefore, understanding the radical doctrines of the Islamists explains first: the ideological authenticity of the enemies beliefs. They aren't made up, and only an ignoramus or deceiver would claim they are. Secondly, it provides the elite you refer to - anglo-american establishment - the perfect pretext for creating the situation that currently exists. Islamism - instead of being created by the west, is being used by the west. Maybe western leaders stand to make a sumptuous profit in starting wars; or maybe some longer term globalist agenda somehow fits in, and making a profit in the process is just a perk of secondary interest.

This to me explains the presence of 2 problems. In the west, we have our corrupt leaders. And in the orient, we have the emergent threat of Islamism, both in the form of Iran's theocratic government - which avidly awaits the occulation of their 12th Imam - and Egypt's newly elected Islamist government, headed by a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood. Also, the Free Syrian Army is Islamist, meaning, the party which could lead to the ousting of the Assad regime is the same types of people who took over Egypt, and also vying for power in Libya. Then you have Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza.

The Islamist movement is stronger today than 6 years ago when Bush was in power; Since Obama entered, the Muslim world has been helped by the US state department; Brotherhood came to power in Egypt, the Assad government is being threatened by an Islamist opposition - and both frankly - Mubarak in Egypt and Assad in Syria - even if an agent of the west and a lackey of socialist dogma - are preferable to helping build a united Islamist front in Egypt, Gaza, Syria, Iran against western interests, values and civilization. Self interest should never devolve into suicide. It's either us or them.

It doesn't matter what is stated in the scriptural texts, but in hows it's interpreted by the theologians. Do Jews see God in the way Islam see's God? No. The Jewish God is interactive; he is also bound by his reason and justice i.e. the episode where Abraham questions Gods justice to kill innocents with the wicked in Sodom. Allah is the Absolute - the Godhead who cannot be made contingent; to bound him by reason is to take away from his omnipotence, therefore, God is either the All, or man reduces him to the boundaries of reason - which is total blasphemy in Sunni Islam, which, as mentioned before, is based on the writings of Ibn Hanbal, Al Ashari and Al Ghazali - considered the second most eminent figure in Islam behind the prophet Mohammad.

Islamic scholars see everything in terms of transcendence: literally everything. People do not exist, we are mere shadows of Gods action. Cause and Effect do not exist, they are illusions facilitated by Gods pure willing; and willing - willing transcends thought - and Allah is identified with Will. And the Quran; the Quran transcends reason - being a revelation i.e. an intuitive discovery of Mohammad. Because the Quran is one with God i.e. bound with him through it's transcendence, than all actions in order to be in tune with transcendence cannot be predicated on reason i.e. reason means to be bound to the reason within creation, and thus, with human beings, and God if he is to remain omnipotent must not be bound at all; because God is pure Will - and his will is reflected in the commands of the Quran - man can only live according to Gods will in the Quran. Thus, when a Muslim has a moral problem, what do he or she do? Do they use their 'reason' i.e. conscience? No, as said, God in Islam - unlike in Christianity and Judaism - is not bound by reason; he is not logos (reason) and man cannot use logos - reason - as a means to connect with him. Man can only connect with God by fulfilling the transcendent will of Allah in the Quran. The implications of this doctrine are remarkable. This means Muslims are taught to not to use their reason, or conscience, but rather, to memorize the jurisprudential principles and precedents in Islamic shari'a; and if they have a problem that needs a solution, they call a fiqh (law) hotline - as exists in many Islamic societies, to get in touched with someone formally trained in revelation i.e. Quran and Hadith - to instruct them how to act.

Islam is a religion that stresses memorization, not moral insight into right and wrong. So your assumption that "all religions teach morality" or conscience, is predicated on that religions metaphysical and theological conception of God; if it is a religion like Islam, which stresses the transcendence of Allah's activity and the inability of human reason to know right from wrong, you get a religion that gives primacy to power instead of reason.

If you have never read the Quran, there are many contradictory statements, many of which call for intolerance towards non muslims; later quranic statements take precedence to earlier statements; all the especially xenophobic or bellicose verses occur later, which, according to a popular hermeneutic rule in Islamic interpretation, nullifies the first verse. Just as in normal action, what comes after, annihilates the former; and taking in mind that according to Al Ghazali, there is no past or present, no cause and effect, but only a continuous 'now' forever being created and annihilated every moment, you can understand how this hermeneutic principle coheres with the general gist of Islamic metaphysics.

Of course, I speak only of the mainstream Islamic school of thought. There is also Avicenna, Averroes and proponents of a more rational Islam, but thy quickly lost steam in the early Islamic period (700 CE - 1200 CE), and since then Al Ghazali, Ibn Arabi etc have dominated thinking in Sunni Islam.
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