Did this 78 yr old man really beat 'incurable' cancer just by changing his diet? , page 8

reply to post by deessell

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No, it isn't a theory of how cancer develops at all.
I haven't stated any specific theories, just said what cancer IS.

Cancer has been PROVEN to have been caused by a myriad of factors and quite often it's not a single factor but a combination of them. So for someone to say, quite glibly in my opinion and without reproducible and verifiable evidence, that all cancer is caused by a fungus demonstrates one of the closed minds I've ever encountered.

Your example of scurvy and citrus fruits is a strange one. Scurvy was first described by Hippocrates (yes, THAT Hippocrates) and has been treated in various ways ever since. A link from it to citrus fruits was proven in 1753 and the British Navy started providing their sailors with the fruits not too long after that (hence the term "Limeys"). Personally I wouldn't call 350 years "It wasn't that long ago ".

reply to post by Pardon?

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Yes, I'm aware of that however, it wasn't until 1932 that Vitamin C was "discovered".

reply to post by Skywatcher2011

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The doctors want to make money also. If the hospitals started healing the patients before they saw the surgeons, the hospitals and doctors would lose money also. And word of mouth would spread and so the doctors would lose more patients.

reply to post by deessell

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What exactly are you aware of?
The fact that scurvy was treated with citrus fruits or that it took a while longer to specify the exact compound involved?

And going back to your previous post, the other "theories" are not proper theories. True theories have been tested, reproducibly proven and used reliably to make predictions about what will happen under further testing.
The majority of the tosh in this thread is little more than supposition and and a hatred and/or distrust of the medical establishment.
The fungus one cracks me up every time and for those who really believe in the acid/alkaline story, please learn some basic human physiology before you start mouthing off about it.
While there's an awful lot of truth in having a healthy diet and the prevention of cancer the most it can do is HELP prevent it. It doesn't cure it.

I've been researching into cancer treatments for over 10 years now and I will give EVERY single hypothesis equal time and thought. There have been times when I've thought they've managed to find something which is going to change the rules but unfortunately, since this isn't just one disease but many, one single method of attack won't give us a panacea.

What people have to also take into account (and I find that certain people who extol the virtues of "natural medicine" are the most guilty ones in ignoring this piece of information) is that the alternative medicine BUSINESS is worth in excess of $50 billion a year. Yes, it's a BIG BUSINESS just like pharma but with few, if any at all, guidelines to follow.

I'm not for any particular method of countering this horrific disease. Personally I believe that the only thing you can do is to limit your chances of developing it but even then, I've known people who have lived a healthy life with almost zero risk-factors and they've developed it.
The web is awash with a myriad of cancer treatments and cures all preying on the desperation of the sufferers and their families hoping to avoid the likes of surgery, chemo and/or radiation treatment. Yes, those treatments are almost as horrific as the disease itself but at the moment they offer the best chance we have.
Believe me, if something (anything!) comes up which gives us a better chance of survival without the side effects of the treatments listed above, I'll be standing on the rooftops shouting about it.
I really hope I'm able to do that in my lifetime.

Originally posted by Pardon?
reply to post by deessell

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The web is awash with a myriad of cancer treatments and cures all preying on the desperation of the sufferers and their families hoping to avoid the likes of surgery, chemo and/or radiation treatment. Yes, those treatments are almost as horrific as the disease itself but at the moment they offer the best chance we have.

I choose not to believe that chemo and radiation offer the best treatment for cancer. If I am not mistaken, doesn't radiation also cause cancer? Chemo..offers many toxic chemicals which may kill the cancer, but may also cause new cancers down the road.

I believe in the healthy diet and vitamins treatment. I like my occasional wine and cheese. And I try to stay away from junk food. But I do love my morning coffee, oh yeeeeeeah!

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011

Originally posted by Pardon?
reply to post by deessell

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The web is awash with a myriad of cancer treatments and cures all preying on the desperation of the sufferers and their families hoping to avoid the likes of surgery, chemo and/or radiation treatment. Yes, those treatments are almost as horrific as the disease itself but at the moment they offer the best chance we have.

I choose not to believe that chemo and radiation offer the best treatment for cancer. If I am not mistaken, doesn't radiation also cause cancer? Chemo..offers many toxic chemicals which may kill the cancer, but may also cause new cancers down the road.

I believe in the healthy diet and vitamins treatment. I like my occasional wine and cheese. And I try to stay away from junk food. But I do love my morning coffee, oh yeeeeeeah!

It's certainly your prerogative to "believe" that they're not the best treatments but please let me know of any which have been reproducibly PROVEN to offer the same success rates as them (testimonies don't count).
Yes, uncontrolled radiation can certainly cause cancer but you need to understand fully what radiotherapy entails. It's very controlled and specifically targets certain areas. The chances of this radiation causing cancer is very slim indeed and this is far outweighed by the therapeutic nature of it.
As far as I'm aware, chaemo doesn't cause cancer. There's one study out there which suggests that some chaemo may encourage some cancer s to grow and make the treatment more difficult but this needs to be verified.

Look, as I've said in numerous topics about cancer, the current regime of cancer treatments is horrible. It's not something to be taken lightly at all. What you have to think of though is the alternative to not having these treatments. Cancer is an horrific disease and unfortunately it takes fire to fight fire.
If there were any alternatives to this, any at all, they would be the biggest breakthrough not just in medical science but in science full stop. There would be no way at all of suppressing this at all. None whatsoever as everyone concerned would be shouting from the rooftops. As this hasn't happened yet it means there isn't one.
I really hope I see one in my lifetime though.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011

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V8 juice is full of sugar and other crap if you want juice make it yourself

reply to post by Andromerius

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There is 2 good shows to watch they are cancer is curable now and forks over knives if you eat meat keep it to 5% of your intake anything over will make the meat proteins have a cancer effect. The forks over knives doco also shows a lot of evidence for this and is probably the better of the 2 if you can download it from somewhere or even buy it they have a website. They show a few people all on a massive amount of drugs including insuline shots they change their diet and they no longer need any of their meds that they needed before.

The cure has been there since the start of time just modern day living has erroded that and certain region lifestyles also drive the cancer rates up. Hope you check out the docos I spoke of.

Originally posted by vkturbo
reply to post by Skywatcher2011

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V8 juice is full of sugar and other crap if you want juice make it yourself

I have been doing that recently....just mixing greens and fruits in my blender and making the best smoothies ever!

reply to post by Skywatcher2011

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There are plently of stories concering herbal remedy miracles! I think herbal supplements will work for some people, but others are too far gone. Seems like this man caught his cancer before it spread too far. I think the hormones and steriods places in animal foods (beef/milk/chicken) are to blame. If we all adopted healthier life styles I think cancer will decrease.

I practice herbal remedies as well to try to fight off dysplasia I am experiencing.

Google has plenty of sites offering recommendations of herbs to take for whatever symptoms you may have. You can probably even find a person to consult in your town.

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