Originally posted by jacobe001
Interesting, I did find this:
In 1983 and 1984, Scott County, Minnesota prosecutor Kathleen Morris investigated and began to prosecute a ring of child molesters centered in the town of Jordan. Child victims had testified about satanic rituals and the filming of children in sex acts. "The case involves the largest adult-juvenile sex ring in Minnesota history, authorities said," reported the Minneapolis Star-Tribune on November 18, 1983.
At least 30 children told police they had been molested. Morris brought indictments against 24 adults. People magazine of October 22, 1984 summarized, "The village harbored rings of adult sex abusers who incestuously victimized their own children and other children during ritualistic sex parties involving sadism and bestiality. Some of the children described a bizarre sexual variation of hide-and-seek in which children who were 'found' were taken to a bedroom and abused." The children told of witnessing three ritualistic murders.
Child care workers and psychologists found the children highly credible. Psychologist Michael Shea, who treated some of them, told People, "Children are not able to fantasize in such graphic detail about sexual acts which are outside their experience. And they certainly can't be coerced, or bribed or brainwashed into making statements about their parents." Minnesota psychologist Susan Phipps Yonas, who also inter- viewed some of the children, told the Star Tribune that she fully believed their reports: "It's not just the details that make them convincing, but the [emotional] effect behind the stories. They're extraordinarily upset when they recount these things. They'd have to be world-class actors to be so convincing if it wasn't true." Phipps Yonas speculated that since the children talked about large sums of money changing hands, organized crime was likely involved.
Morris indicted the ring's chief figure, 26 year-old James Rud, on 108 counts of child abuse. His parents, Alvin and Rosemary Rud, and his 17-year old brother were also indicted, as were several other people from the Valley Green Trailer Park, 35 miles outside of Minneapolis-St. Paul. Most of the abused children also lived in the trailer park.
Originally posted by Lichter daraus
Originally posted by UziLiberman
reply to post by Lichter daraus
no need to justify, i wasn't questioning your credibility although some might.
i'm just saying it would be nice to hear a first hand account of the effect one case that went on to take the shape of a conspiracy theory had on real people's lives.
and regardless of your writing abilities to make threads, you shouldn't also fear what some ats members might do or say about your story, i understand it's a personal issue, but the internet enables you to be serious yes but leave the personal aside.
i don't take anything on the internet personally, i have the power to press "X" and vamoose keyboard warriors and trolls.
an the higher power that is the ability to consciously ignore.
Well, ill think about doing a thread about it and see where it goes, if i do this ill do it on paper first and proof read it and what not then post it. I dont wanna derail this thread any farther than i feel i already have.
There is way more than just that child sex abuse ring going on, that is the tip of the ice berg. Yes James rudd was actually the only one who actually did anything the rest were accused because of him not wanting to go down alone, and im betting there is more to it than just that.