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Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by sirhumperdink
And also don't forget the quite partner of all of the Casinos in Las Vegas has been the LDS church itself which owned all the land in Las Vegas before the strip ever existed. They have always played the quite partner picking people to play the front man for there church. After most of the mobsters were chased off the church turned to Howard Hughes to clean up the place the Mormon church was running things.
It is not the purpose of this post to critique the religion as a whole but some material should be noted to put things in context.
The Danites were formed in 1838 as a paramilitary, underground organization to fight the "enemies" of the church. Their activities were sanctioned by church leaders. They were also known as the "Daughters of Zion" and "Avenging Angels". For a note of historical importance it should be noted that Sherlock Holmes inventor Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a story in which the Danites featured entitled "A Study in Scarlet".
David Whitmer, one of the three witnesses to the Book of Mormon tells of the founding of this group and his persecution for trying to tell the leaders of the church of their folly in going ahead with this scheme. He eventually left the church and you can read about that here.1857massacre.com...
The sect was sanctioned to commit any treacherous act in defense of the Church including violence, lying and theft. The violence would also include murder as history would show.
Eventually the Church would split into two distinct groups. One of which eventually would find their way to Utah under Brigham Young. There was a lot of friction between the Mormons and state and federal authorities as well as persecution on some level from the people as well.
In 1857 we had the infamous Mountain Meadows massacre, (which occurred on September 11 FYI) largely carried out by the still extant Danites. Some question whether Church leadership and specifically Brigham Young had a direct hand in what happened. It seems clear to me that Young was intimately involved in the massacre.
There was a period of intense pressure being placed upon the Church by federal authorities especially in regards to the polygamous practices of the sect and to the virtual fiefdom ruled by Young in Utah. It is at this point that we see the emigration of some to Mexico including the grandfather of Willard Mitt Romney.
One of the first inclinations of the Mormons to move into the financial realm was with the Kirtland Safety Society Anti-banking Society in Ohio. Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon sought to get a charter for the bank but were turned down. This was an "anti-bank" that ran as a bank issuing it's own currency, even though it had no legal sanction to function as a bank.
This 3 dollar bill is believed by many to be the origin of the term; "Phony as a three dollar bill". The "anti-bank" issued currency in exchange for gold and silver. It folded and a large group of suckers were left holding the bag. This also was a blow to the church as most of the victims of the scam were Church members and many would leave the Church, disillusioned, over the fiasco. It seems that Smith had land speculation in mind when he started the "anti-bank". He and Rigdon fled Kirtland by night to avoid angry mobs of the defrauded.
The Mormon church would become one of the richest religious bodies with an incredible amount of land. In this TWENTY YEAR OLD STORY the amount of land and property owned by the Church was well over a billion dollars, and that was a less than thorough investigation. In that article you will notice that this is an issue of great secrecy in the Church as they do not reveal what they own or where, even to Church members. It is my contention that the "Avenging Angels" morphed into the financial wizards of the Church. It is because of the transition to acquisition that much of the real power in the LDS church would be focused in the financial sector. When we move forward in time we have the curious case of Howard Hughes.
Or how about this connection with people who tried to bring down the American government:
It always makes me laugh how people on the right and the supporters of Romney's only defense is to say, "Oh yeah, well look what Obama did!"
Woohoo! We have 2 criminals running for office of the President of the United States! Surely, we are not screwed.
They cover their butts enough so that the connection will never quite be there, but keep digging. And those of you that support Romney, or Obama, keep believing in your man! We aren't missing your critical thinking skills, anyhow.
umm sea, you might want to fix that
aren't you meaning to reference "The Businessmen's Plot" an attempt to assassinate FDR and impose a fascist
dictatorship [a bush was involved, he was very friendly with the nazi's as well]
don't forget that george sr. was allegedly seen in dallas the day JFK died
and very close friends with the hinkleys whose son nearly took out ronnie ray-gun as well
Meanwhile on Planet Earth...the GOP and their campaigns are funded by a select few oligarchs who demand policies that give them more power and control of America
But as the Oxnard City Council prepares for a June 8 study session on the gambling issue, Crane has his own hurdles to clear: * He owns all or part of five casinos in Las Vegas and Colorado. State gaming authorities say California generally forbids owners of such clubs from holding licenses here, because those gambling activities are not legal in this state. * A potential Crane partner in Oxnard is a former real estate syndicator who lost two civil fraud judgments in 1984 worth $3.35 million and was sued in 1988 by 6,000 investors who claimed he defrauded them out of $100 million. The potential partner was also an investor in a Bell Gardens card club seized by the federal government in 1990 because it was built partly with drug money. Though Nevada gaming authorities and lawyers familiar with Crane's work in federal court in Los Angeles vouch for his ability and integrity, aspects of his past may prompt inquiry by state gaming officials and Oxnard city officials when they do their background checks. Crane, once nominated by the Justice Department as the outstanding federal government attorney in the nation, created a stir among prosecutors after resigning his strike force post in 1975 by representing gambling interests and a client associated with organized crime figures, and by gaining a 5% interest in a Las Vegas casino in 1979. * His reputation as a federal prosecutor was temporarily sullied in the early 1980s when a felon's claim that Crane had delayed or quashed prosecutions at the behest of criminals received nationwide media coverage. A federal investigation cleared Crane of any wrongdoing.
Agents from the FBI's Los Angeles office interviewed Vann about the allegations on Oct. 7, 1982, Shaheen said, and then reported to FBI headquarters that they would conduct no investigation "because of the time which had passed since the alleged acts had taken place and because the allegations (in the report's words) 'cannot be corroborated independently of Horrelbeke's (sic) statements.'
Originally posted by F4guy
MNU in that context is not a reference to some obscure Nazarene university. It stands for Middle Name Unknown, as in George (middle name unknown) Scott.