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Romney tied to Casinos connected to corrupt Attorney who defended movie maker causing protest.

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by JBA2848
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And also don't forget the quite partner of all of the Casinos in Las Vegas has been the LDS church itself which owned all the land in Las Vegas before the strip ever existed. They have always played the quite partner picking people to play the front man for there church. After most of the mobsters were chased off the church turned to Howard Hughes to clean up the place the Mormon church was running things.


would not put it past the repugs, to be pulling a october surprise a month early
as infested with bigots and american taliban as they are now

nice finds here's some more for the file:
"mitts" family history is pretty nasty
and he is as Phony as the three dollar bills his granpa helped peddle [the reason he had to flee to mexico]
he is also very probably a danite
and-lo-did-i-spy-danites-and-willard


It is not the purpose of this post to critique the religion as a whole but some material should be noted to put things in context.
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The Danites were formed in 1838 as a paramilitary, underground organization to fight the "enemies" of the church. Their activities were sanctioned by church leaders. They were also known as the "Daughters of Zion" and "Avenging Angels". For a note of historical importance it should be noted that Sherlock Holmes inventor Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a story in which the Danites featured entitled "A Study in Scarlet".
David Whitmer, one of the three witnesses to the Book of Mormon tells of the founding of this group and his persecution for trying to tell the leaders of the church of their folly in going ahead with this scheme. He eventually left the church and you can read about that here.1857massacre.com...
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The sect was sanctioned to commit any treacherous act in defense of the Church including violence, lying and theft. The violence would also include murder as history would show.
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Eventually the Church would split into two distinct groups. One of which eventually would find their way to Utah under Brigham Young. There was a lot of friction between the Mormons and state and federal authorities as well as persecution on some level from the people as well.
In 1857 we had the infamous Mountain Meadows massacre, (which occurred on September 11 FYI) largely carried out by the still extant Danites. Some question whether Church leadership and specifically Brigham Young had a direct hand in what happened. It seems clear to me that Young was intimately involved in the massacre.
There was a period of intense pressure being placed upon the Church by federal authorities especially in regards to the polygamous practices of the sect and to the virtual fiefdom ruled by Young in Utah. It is at this point that we see the emigration of some to Mexico including the grandfather of Willard Mitt Romney.
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One of the first inclinations of the Mormons to move into the financial realm was with the Kirtland Safety Society Anti-banking Society in Ohio. Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon sought to get a charter for the bank but were turned down. This was an "anti-bank" that ran as a bank issuing it's own currency, even though it had no legal sanction to function as a bank.


This 3 dollar bill is believed by many to be the origin of the term; "Phony as a three dollar bill". The "anti-bank" issued currency in exchange for gold and silver. It folded and a large group of suckers were left holding the bag. This also was a blow to the church as most of the victims of the scam were Church members and many would leave the Church, disillusioned, over the fiasco. It seems that Smith had land speculation in mind when he started the "anti-bank". He and Rigdon fled Kirtland by night to avoid angry mobs of the defrauded.
The Mormon church would become one of the richest religious bodies with an incredible amount of land. In this TWENTY YEAR OLD STORY the amount of land and property owned by the Church was well over a billion dollars, and that was a less than thorough investigation. In that article you will notice that this is an issue of great secrecy in the Church as they do not reveal what they own or where, even to Church members. It is my contention that the "Avenging Angels" morphed into the financial wizards of the Church. It is because of the transition to acquisition that much of the real power in the LDS church would be focused in the financial sector. When we move forward in time we have the curious case of Howard Hughes.


S&F




posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Or how about this connection with people who tried to bring down the American government:


umm sea, you might want to fix that

aren't you meaning to reference "The Businessmen's Plot" an attempt to assassinate FDR and impose a fascist
dictatorship [a bush was involved, he was very friendly with the nazi's as well]
don't forget that george sr. was allegedly seen in dallas the day JFK died
and very close friends with the hinkleys whose son nearly took out ronnie ray-gun as well



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Taz is still trying to figure this post out. Probably belongs in another forum.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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It always makes me laugh how people on the right and the supporters of Romney's only defense is to say, "Oh yeah, well look what Obama did!"

Woohoo! We have 2 criminals running for office of the President of the United States! Surely, we are not screwed.

They cover their butts enough so that the connection will never quite be there, but keep digging. And those of you that support Romney, or Obama, keep believing in your man! We aren't missing your critical thinking skills, anyhow.



Pseudo intellectuals who spend their days criticizing the two-party charade are simply ignoring the reality we live in. You can continue to “assume the position” and stick to your Ron Paul fantasy but the truth is that RP IS GONE and Obamney WILL BE elected.

Assuming the position won’t make this bad dream go away, friend.




Tell me, which of these two monsters breathes more fire? Which will hurt the country more? Where do they each fit on this political spectrum and where will each of their political dogma’s lead this country?



If you say Romney and Obama are exactly the same you’re WRONG.

Stop lecturing people about the lack of intellect people who chose a side have and look in the mirror. The train is leaving the station whether you’re on it or not!



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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The six degrees of separation is a great defense.
But it's really one degree.
The billionaire casino owners.
This bunch would certainly would never participate in any form of taking
advantage of you or me. And certainly NEVER resort to dirty tricks and or
funding large medium and small false flags.
Now that would be a stretch.
edit on 15-9-2012 by sealing because: Removed casino owners name.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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umm sea, you might want to fix that

aren't you meaning to reference "The Businessmen's Plot" an attempt to assassinate FDR and impose a fascist
dictatorship [a bush was involved, he was very friendly with the nazi's as well]
don't forget that george sr. was allegedly seen in dallas the day JFK died
and very close friends with the hinkleys whose son nearly took out ronnie ray-gun as well


I didn’t misspeak.

You’re free to bring that up though. I could care less about Bush right now; he’s not the POTUS nor is he running for POTUS. I'm wondering about the slamming on Romney while the CLEAR connections Obama has to crooks and terrorists goes unmentioned.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Meanwhile on Planet Earth...the GOP and their campaigns are funded by a select few oligarchs
who demand policies that give them more power and control of America



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Meanwhile on Planet Earth...the GOP and their campaigns are funded by a select few oligarchs who demand policies that give them more power and control of America


The only thing being ignored is my previous post.

There is no sense beating the false left/right paradigm drum when the damned election is GOING TO HAPPEN and RP isn’t going to be part of it!!

Join the fight for our country already!! Sitting it out and complaining isn't going to fix a thing!



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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Bunch of horse dung!!!

I cant believe these people are
trying to play politics with the death
of our great ambassador.
Should be ashamed of yourself

Trying to pin this with
a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows Romney>?

Silly sick sad



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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You aren't the only one who thinks this is connected to Las Vegas Casinos. Gordon Duff of Veterans Today made a similar suggestion although his referencing wasn't as thorough as yours.

www.veteranstoday.com...



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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lol they're all trash
they're even all related in various degrees
no different from the caligulas,draculs, and bathorys of lore
reptilians indeed, and all this "political debate" is just the same thing really as
the excitement at a cock or dog fight.

it just isn't gonna solve anyone's problems, it distracts
and hoovers up enormous amounts of energy that could be put to much better use IMO



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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James Henderson and Richard P. Crane Jr. were named together as being corrupt. Lets take a look at Richard P. Crane Jr.. Seems he quit the task force he was working for with James Henderson on organized crime to open a casino with a known felon.

articles.latimes.com...



But as the Oxnard City Council prepares for a June 8 study session on the gambling issue, Crane has his own hurdles to clear: * He owns all or part of five casinos in Las Vegas and Colorado. State gaming authorities say California generally forbids owners of such clubs from holding licenses here, because those gambling activities are not legal in this state. * A potential Crane partner in Oxnard is a former real estate syndicator who lost two civil fraud judgments in 1984 worth $3.35 million and was sued in 1988 by 6,000 investors who claimed he defrauded them out of $100 million. The potential partner was also an investor in a Bell Gardens card club seized by the federal government in 1990 because it was built partly with drug money. Though Nevada gaming authorities and lawyers familiar with Crane's work in federal court in Los Angeles vouch for his ability and integrity, aspects of his past may prompt inquiry by state gaming officials and Oxnard city officials when they do their background checks. Crane, once nominated by the Justice Department as the outstanding federal government attorney in the nation, created a stir among prosecutors after resigning his strike force post in 1975 by representing gambling interests and a client associated with organized crime figures, and by gaining a 5% interest in a Las Vegas casino in 1979. * His reputation as a federal prosecutor was temporarily sullied in the early 1980s when a felon's claim that Crane had delayed or quashed prosecutions at the behest of criminals received nationwide media coverage. A federal investigation cleared Crane of any wrongdoing.


This was the partner of James Henderson attorney for the movie producer Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

And for those who say well they were cleared of any wrong doing.

articles.latimes.com...



Agents from the FBI's Los Angeles office interviewed Vann about the allegations on Oct. 7, 1982, Shaheen said, and then reported to FBI headquarters that they would conduct no investigation "because of the time which had passed since the alleged acts had taken place and because the allegations (in the report's words) 'cannot be corroborated independently of Horrelbeke's (sic) statements.'



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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I only supported Ron Paul because he was the only politician in my short life span who has spoken something close enough to the truth it resonated with me. I deal in the real world, and now that he has been eliminated my support will be going to Gary Johnson.

Name calling shows what type of character you have. Making assumptions about some body over the internet shows what type of character you have.

You are right, they are not the same. On the outside. The GOP and Democrats are not the same, from the exterior. If they only have one thing in common it is that they are both liars. if you knew anything at all you would know that these political interests are backed by the same banks and the same corporations. You want death by a thousand papercuts instead of the full on guillotine? Fine with me.

Jeez, I would post a picture of your head up your *ss but I can't seem to find one. Actually, I just have better things to do.

And Derepent is right, it all a distraction. Play into it if you'd like. It's just like rooting for your favorite NFL team on Sunday. If you are too dense to realize that then I have no interest in conversing with you. I don't have the patience anymore, I have tried dealing with partisan hacks. The more you blame Obama or Romney for all this counties woes the more you take away attention from the people who are actually in control.
There is so much attention given to Obama and his past, Obama and his associates, Obama and his socialistic ideology... to claim otherwise is completely idiotic. But God forbid someone wants to talk about Romney's past. Try not to be offended, as you have been trained, when someone goes after 'your' guy. I know it's hard.

And for the record, I have agreed with a lot of the things you have posted on this website seabag. I have respected your views but in this case you just seem to be a part of the problem - in my humble opinion that is based on absolutely nothing because I don't know you as a person.
edit on 15-9-2012 by PatriotGames2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by F4guy
MNU in that context is not a reference to some obscure Nazarene university. It stands for Middle Name Unknown, as in George (middle name unknown) Scott.


At least someone is smart enough to know that. This thread is complete Garbage. I am positive this could be linked to Obama as well in a similar fashion, as well as millions of other people. Waste of 5 minutes of my life.



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