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This Dimension is Vibration at its slowest point: physical matter. We have chosen to leave Time Space, in order to experience Space Time in this dimension. Yes, we are Eternal Souls who have had many lifetimes on this plane in order to learn (from experience) the lessons our souls need in order to fully 'understand' God. If God had never created this universe (Uni - One, Verse - Song/Poem) than God would never have known Himself. We could have remained 'perfect,' but we would not have understood what 'perfect' meant. Thus, again, we choose to come here, over and over, often times making soul agreements with soul-mates and soul-tribes, to embed these lessons into our Knowing.
reply to post by eleven44
I truly understand and believe this. I see God (and myself) in the eyes of everyone I meet. I see God unfold around me daily. The synchronicities, the messages, the impeccable timing, the ever pervasive love and the divine order of it all...it is humbling to say the least.
The only theory that I've come up with is that the universe was in a pre-Big Bang state that consisted of nothing, including the laws of physics and all the energy, and then something happened which created something, including the laws of physics. By being in a state that did not include the fundamental laws of reality, something could have happened to kick it off, but what that something was, how it worked, and why we have the universe that we do, that's something that's impossible to know, and pointless to speculate about.
Originally posted by eleven44
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reply to post by TarzanBeta
Thanks for all the great answers guys, keep 'em coming!
That was the true purpose of my post: to incite dialogue and to get other people who may not have thought much about this before, to chime in and think about it as well.
TarzanBeta - What you wrote was beautiful. You are very spiritually adept. You explained everything that I already know in Spirit, but with an elegance and simplicity that is easily followed. Thank you for taking the time to contribute.
Many others of you too, I can see, have a very peaceful and beautiful relationship with God. This makes me very happy. I honestly expected more people to challenge me or be skeptic of my reference to God than to have so many like-minded individuals respond.
I am glad to see you are out there.
Honestly, again, I wanted to see someone attempt to explain this with science. See, like you said - Trysts - I too believe in the theory of evolution in the sense that matter and organisms change and adapt. We can see this in viruses and bacteria in a very short amount of time. Evolution goes hand in hand with the idea of manifestation and the ever changing state of the universe to continuously embody perfection.
But if you try to apply the same logic of evolution to All That Is...I believe it falls short. Evolution, by my understanding of the definition, has to come from something else. This universe only exists, as many of you have explained as well, in order for Us (thoughts of God) to experience the I AM (That which is God, which is All.) If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? No, sound requires an observer. If a universe exists without any one to observe it, does it exist at all? No.
This Dimension is Vibration at its slowest point: physical matter. We have chosen to leave Time Space, in order to experience Space Time in this dimension. Yes, we are Eternal Souls who have had many lifetimes on this plane in order to learn (from experience) the lessons our souls need in order to fully 'understand' God. If God had never created this universe (Uni - One, Verse - Song/Poem) than God would never have known Himself. We could have remained 'perfect,' but we would not have understood what 'perfect' meant. Thus, again, we choose to come here, over and over, often times making soul agreements with soul-mates and soul-tribes, to embed these lessons into our Knowing.
I truly understand and believe this. I see God (and myself) in the eyes of everyone I meet. I see God unfold around me daily. The synchronicities, the messages, the impeccable timing, the ever pervasive love and the divine order of it all...it is humbling to say the least.
I may have overplayed my confusion about it all earlier, but again, thank you for all who have responded. This dialogue was my main goal.
But...even still...and I understand this is my limited Ego speaking...but...How? When did God 'decide' to do all of This? (Time is illusion.) Why for us? (Yes, He loves us and needs to experience.) But...still...gr...it's hard to put into words. This flesh. This tongue. These fingers... I don't doubt. I have faith. It's just...evasive. And that's okay too. My brain enjoys the mystery.
Breathe. Release. Receive. It is all happening.edit on 15-9-2012 by eleven44 because: (no reason given)edit on 15-9-2012 by eleven44 because: this and that for clarity sake
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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Why does there have to be a beginning? Circles don't begin, they just simply always are.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by adjensen
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Oh, and I'll also point out that "infinity" (as regards time) is one directional -- time going on forever. If it was infinite on the other end (before us) this time would not, could not and would never exist. "Eternal" is a different matter, because eternity isn't infinite time, it is the state of no time. No beginning, no ending, and nothing to measure in between.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by eleven44
Why does there have to be a beginning? Circles don't begin, they just simply always are.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by eleven44
That's the beauty of the circle, just because you began it, does not mean it was not already always there. When you "begin" a circle, it can only move in one direction, either clockwise or counterclockwise. So, inevitably it comes up "behind you," or from the direction you're not going. When it overlaps, just just become a single point in the whole thing, no more or less significant than any other individual who decides to draw the circle. The circle is there whether we're aware of it, or not.
Sophistry aside, here's the best answer I can give you:
Existence is circular, we become, we are, we collapse, and then aren't. In our collapse we become again, and so on and so forth. There's nothing spiritual or religious about it. Modern science can account for a big bang, a big crunch, and a big restart. So, all of our concepts of God and spirituality are just that: ideas, philosophies, and cerebral entertainment. There is no God, because there does not need to be a God. Existence can maintain itself without His hand.
~ Wandering Scribe
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God is so great and powerful..