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The only answer that seems to come to me is something that our little human brains can't even grasp...
And whereas sense and memory are but knowledge of fact, which is a thing past and irrevocable. Science is the knowledge of consequences, and dependance of one fact upon another: by which, out of that we can presently do, we know how to do something else when we will, or the like another time; because when we see how any thing comes about, upon what causes, and by what manner; when the like causes come into our power, we see how to make it produce the like effects.
But yet they that have no science, are in better, and nobler condition, with their natural prudence; than men, that by mis-reasoning, or by trusting them that reason wrong, fall upon false and absurd general rules. For ignorance of causes, and of rules, does not set men so far out of their way, as relying on false rules, and taking for causes of what they aspire to, those that are not so, but rather causes of the contrary.
To conclude, the light of human minds is perspicuous words, but by exact definitions first snuffed, and purged from ambiguity; reason is the pace; increase of science, the way; and the benefit of mankind, the end. And, on the contrary, metaphors, and senseless and ambiguous words, are like ignes fatui; and reasoning upon them is wandering amongst innumerable absurdities; and their end, contention and sedition, or contempt.
Originally posted by eleven44
reply to post by trysts
I do agree, and understand that we can not understand.
At least not now. Not in this body.
But then...I guess I'm just really interested to hear what 'Evolutionists' and Atheist's say.
No science we yet understand could possibly answer that question.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by eleven44
The only answer that seems to come to me is something that our little human brains can't even grasp...
Correct. Father has always been there. His answer to me when I have asked, has been you will not understand while in the body.
When He tells you this, He is not telling you that the answer cannot be revealed to you. He is telling you that you must listen to Him in the Spirit - not in the flesh.
Originally posted by eleven44
I mean...how did 'God' come in to existence. And again, I know the rhetoric is 'God has no beginning and no End.' But seriously serious here, how is that possible? I don't believe our little human brains can grasp the idea.
But that has never stopped me from trying.
Okay, but then lets say 'God is not real. Only Science and Evolution are at play here.'
Okay, I could possibly get behind that too...but even still...WHAT STARTED IT??
Originally posted by ZeroReady
I think you need to understand the consequences of infinity. You know the adage about monkeys and typewriters?
Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters and eventually they will reproduce the works of Shakespeare word for word.
Seems impossible, but it's not, just highly unlikely. But on an infinite timeline, it WILL happen.
Same with the universe. It may have taken an infinite amount of time before the Big Bang, or Creation, whatever you want to call it. But after all that time, we got Shakespeare.
Of course the problem with the monkeys is that immediately after they write Macbeth they're just as likely to slip back into gibberish.
Originally posted by ZeroReady
Same with the universe. It may have taken an infinite amount of time before the Big Bang, or Creation, whatever you want to call it.