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# I just reached 10,000 Stars! Should i get a free coffee cup or T Shirt?

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:24 PM

Originally posted by loam

Hmmm. I've never fully understood this score.

Is there a thread that explains that more fully?

the Lower the K number, the more evil the poster.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:26 PM

Originally posted by loam

Hmmm. I've never fully understood this score.

Is there a thread that explains that more fully?

Found it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

What the hell is does the K mean ???

Knock! Knock! Hello in there? Are you paying attention at all? I already told you what Karma is:

Karma (K) is ((stars * 15) + (flags + applause) * 10)) / posts.

Stars predominate here. They are factored at 15 where flags and applause are factored at 10. However, the whole thing is divided by number of posts. Your Karma score is relatively low because you do a lot of throw-away posts. You earn stars by your humor, not because you put much work or depth into your posts. Sandbag tends to earn stars because of the insighfulness of his posts. He doesn't post as often, but when he does, his posts are usually pretty good.

K = ((10,012 stars * 15) + (1056 flags + 4 applause) * 10)) / 8164 posts
K = (150,180 + 10600) / 8164
K = 160,780 / 8164
K = 19,69 rounds to
K = 20

Now, if you had half the number of posts at 4,082 your Karma score would double to 40. This is where the quality of your posts counts and too many non-rewarded posts lowers your score.

Wats is different. It's

W = (number of posts / 600) + (number of flags / 80) + (number of stars / 170).
W = (8164 posts / 600) + (1056 flags / 80) + (10,012 stars / 170)
W = 13.6 + 13.2 + 58.89
W = 85.69
W = 85 (rounded down instead of up for some reason)

Here flags are dominant with a factor of 80 where stars are worth just shy of half with a factor of 170 and posts themsevles earn very little with a factor of 600. (Reverse factors this time.) Here your flags, which are few, earn as much as your posts with just over 13 points each. But in this formula posts do count regardless. They don't work against you. And although flags dominate, an overwhelming number of stars earn you the most points at 58. So for this formula, oriiginally designed to reward thread starters, really rewards longevity. If you stick around and post, your W score will tend to go up no matter what you do.

Interestingly points, which you get for posting (1 point), getting a reply to your thread (2 points), or garnering applause (500 points), or through winning debates and contests (zillions of points), don't appear to factor into the formulas. I'm not sure these formulas are 100% accurate. There may be some additional factors, but as you can see, they're pretty close. For example, I'm pretty sure a new member starts out with a K of 20 no matter what so there's a "bottom line" provision programmed in there. I'm indebted to member sherlockholmes for figuring out the original formulas, though we disagree on what they mean. I believe he back-engineered them, but I am not positive.

Now you all can profess this means absolutely nothing because after all, everyone here has a genius IQ and could belong to mensa if we only bothered and everyone is absolutely equal in every other respect, or you can play around with it like I do just because I enjoy messing about with statistics. Whatever floats your boat, but there are things to be learned from them, if you care to pay attention.
edit on 9/15/2012 by schuyler because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:47 PM

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by loam

Hmmm. I've never fully understood this score.

Is there a thread that explains that more fully?

Found it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sure, but Skeptic Overlord never gives you the formula and he's somewhat misleading in his answer, perhaps not intentionally. He says Wats rewards thread starters. If you look at the formula you can see flags are worth more, over twice as much as stars, but the problem here is that posts and stars can overwhelm the thread starter figure pretty easily. The forumula doesn't really accomplish what he wants it to. Look at the example above. For a Wats score of 85 the flags only contribute 13 points out of that 85.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:54 PM

I still have more flags than you.

You will address me as Sir Eurisko.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

I still have more flags than you.

You will address me as Sir Eurisko.

In the dictionary under "redundant" it says "see redundant".

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 05:21 PM
i get a free t shirt from my gym after 100, 200, 500, 1000 visits etc. Then i pay 100 dollars a month member ship. Ats is free so i guess that is prize.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 05:59 PM
You Win A all expense paid trip to the Arm Pit of Connecticut , Bridgeport( as stated by Paul Newman) you get free meals at Micky Dee's, Stay in a roach infested hotel.
If you venture out at night, you get a free 9mm(ammo not included)

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:32 PM
Up to mighty London
Came an Irishman one day.
As the streets are paved with gold
Sure, everyone was gay,
Strand and Leicester Square,
Then he shouted to them there:

It's a long way to Tipperary,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Tipperary
To the sweetest girl I know!
Farewell, Leicester Square!
It's a long long way to Tipperary,
But my heart's right there.

(repeat)

To his Irish Molly-O,
Saying, "Should you not receive it,
Write and let me know!"
"If I make mistakes in spelling,
Molly, dear," said he,
"Remember, it's the pen that's bad,
Don't lay the blame on me!

It's a long way to Tipperary,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Tipperary
To the sweetest girl I know!
Farewell, Leicester Square!
It's a long long way to Tipperary,
But my heart's right there.

Saying Mike Maloney
Wants to marry me, and so
Or you'll be to blame,
For love has fairly drove me silly:
Hoping you're the same!

It's a long way to Tipperary,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Tipperary
To the sweetest girl I know!
Farewell, Leicester Square!
It's a long long way to Tipperary,
But my heart's right there.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:30 PM

Great song!

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:47 PM
Yes, you should have something for that achievement, i give you ... a star

Joke aside, grats and thx to share valuable content and opinions.

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edit on 15/9/2012 by B3lz3buth because: Because i can

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:50 PM

I still have more flags than you.

You will address me as Sir Eurisko.

Schuyler's ratio of stars to posts would indicate that he provides better quality posts than you by a ratio of 2:1 ...just saying.

You can address me as Captain Obvious

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:52 PM
What I want to know is what the point of the Points System is anymore. It doesn't contribute to the WATS score, it is no longer a prerequisite of the RATS forum, you can't buy anything with them anymore, etc.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 10:30 PM
8K posts and 10K stars. You need to work on your post to star ratio.

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 10:40 PM

Congrats!

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 10:48 PM
Congratulations! And have fun making sense of my post to star ratio... Probably 70% of my posts are in moderator only forums as part and parcel of keeping this madhouse at least only slightly mad!

~Heff

posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 11:05 PM
Congratulations!
If I ever reach 10,000 stars I'm going to cash mine in for the
ATS denture cup and a "Deny the Ignorance" tooth brush.

posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 12:02 AM

Hey!

That's about 1.2 stars per post...

Kidding.

Congrats!

Peace

posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 12:10 AM
Stars are easy if you say what people want to hear.

Grats though, free coffee cup!
edit on 16-9-2012 by Chargeit because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 12:15 AM

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