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Our Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by randomname
the house of rothschild sets the price of gold two times daily in london.

ask yourself, do you really want to go to the gold standard.

why do you think all these "buy your useless gold" companies started popping up like mushrooms around the globe.

imagine if you can set the global gold price.

wouldn't you set it low, buy as much as you can, then raise it 4-5x the price you bought it at.

its literally manufacturing your own wealth.

before gold was affordable, $300-$600 an ounce.

but who would pay $1600-$1800 an oz. now. its the perfect price to keep the average citizen from owning it.




I'll answer that. I don't want to set the gold standard. I don't believe in the "gold standard", it's just the principal of it all. Personally, I believe in the barter system BUT it'd be hard to buy a car or an iPod with random items. That's where money comes in to play.

Our money used to be based on something. Gold. Gold has long since been used as currency. That's actually where the term "broke" came from. You used to carry gold around on your arm and break off pieces to buy things. When you had no more gold, you broke it all off. Therefore you were "broke".

Anyways, back to the post. Our money had meaning. In '33 it was forcibly removed. But in place was the Federal Reserves standards on what money is. Do YOU trust an already rich family to set the standard for what the money for 240 million Americans means?

They loan the money that they print to our government with the promise to make a profit off of it. They make that profit by something called the "Federal Interest Rates". That is the rate of your currency that you don't actually own, more or less.

For example, if you had a $1 bill in your pocket and the Interest Rate was 10%, that would mean that of that 100 pennies you only REALLY own 90 pennies. Understand? So they take our income money with taxes, you know...with the Federal Income Tax. They take our money whenever we buy items, you know....sales tax. They take our money when we win money...you know like the lottery and how you usually only take home half. ANDDDD, they take money off of your money just for the sake of making money because they printed it!


And that's America, in a nutshell.
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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Oh, and I'm sorry that the flags didn't post.

THIS is the flag that we're used to:



That is the MILITARY flag of this country. Flying this would mean that you are in a conflict, it's sort of like a battle flag.

THIS is the little known flag of America for it's citizens:



This is the flag for American's civilians.

Get it? We've been militarized? We don't even fly the flag of our citizenship. We fly our military flag.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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the founding fathers would be;

aghast we let women vote
horrified we let slaves vote
sleeping with their mistress



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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I was really hoping there would be more voices of reason by now.
Wrabbit, the correct Englishman and one American I think. Thanks for trying.

Revolution?
Are you sure that your revolt is because of actual problems?
Or generated problems?
Alex Jones was right about a few things;
There is a war on for your mind;
but it's money from
Oil and Casinos that's fueling it.

THEY are the money and political ideology
of the scare mongering as well as about
every yelling Shock Jock
of the last 4 years.
(And.... a few recent False Flags IMO)

So come on..Pay attention.
These guys are the SO OBVIOUSLY the enemy.
Corporate Control and Corruption is what we should stand up against.

The group doing the "scaring" is historically
the one we should be watching.
The old double cross, if it didn't work so well
it wouldn't be named as such.

Turn off FOX Alex Jones Michael Savage MSNBC Rush Limbaugh
CNN CBS ABC NBC and your God Damn radio for a week,
It works wonders.

Here's the man Bill Hicks who warned of scare mongering over and over

www.youtube.com...

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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The Founders would be saddled up , and shooting November 23 1963.

MAGIC BULLET

Are you kidding.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Exactly buddy, now you see it. But you know what? No one else see's it. Everyone else is blinded by money. "Oh I have to work two jobs to support myself." Just keep American citizens in the habit of work, sleep, work, sleep, and they won't say anything about anything.

Everyone is afraid. Afraid of WHAT?


You know why people back then didn't need anxiety or depression medicine? Because they had no reason to worry. Now a days everyone is stressed out until the point that they need manufactured medicine to calm them down. They have this addiction. Us Americans, you could compare us to drug addicts. Take away our money, or limit it and what happens?



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Sorry double post.
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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the founding fathers would be;

aghast we let women vote
horrified we let slaves vote
sleeping with their mistress


Your post made me laugh, my friend.

But yes, George Carlin raised interesting questions about Americans to me.

He said, "America was founded by SLAVE OWNERS who wanted to run a country where it's citizens could be free." Also, we're so against Terrorists but what would you call what our Forefathers? It's either Rebels or Terrorists.

People that rise up and murder their government officials? Sounds like a Terrorist to me, but no...that was our beginning.

It was said in Battlefield 3: "America was founded by terrorists for terrorists."



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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This message has begun to become almost mainstream in a way.
It always finds it's way back to me as if i'm the one who is supposed to be doing SOMETHING.
I'm never entirely sure if we're at that point most of the time. It certainly feels that way though.
Like we should have re-taken the Capitol years ago and began reconstructive surgery on the Republic.
For it to ever work though you would need a mass defection within the military, and i'm sure they have some kind of protocol to quell an uprising fairly quickly, which means you need communication between the militias and master strategists placing them where they need to be for operations. quick and efficient. anything done is with purpose.
Resistance Defense Rapid Response Teams.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:22 PM
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Let's not get crazy and actually plan something, lest you want an 'Agent Smith' knocking on each and everyone of our doors.

I do think something needs to be done.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by johnwilkesbooth
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Let's not get crazy and actually plan something, lest you want an 'Agent Smith' knocking on each and everyone of our doors.

I do think something needs to be done.


Crazy, like the founding fathers? lol.

I plan for everything, but don't worry, Agent Smith would be more interested in observation than to spoil it all now.
Not that there's anything, but I do take into consideration the possibilities, the same as they do.

You say something needs to be done, I will assume peacefully? But does that work?

I don't attempt to hide anything about myself.

I mean, if a shooting war ever did just begin, are you saying it's not a good idea to have run through a somewhat basic idea of 'the plan'? I mean, we aren't actively engaged in terrorism or terrorist ideals or morality so what is the harm?

And if the government actually has something to be fearful about, people like us mobilizing then it's perfectly acceptable in my view to be open in our discussions within this matter.

If the government changes it's act, nobody would be having these discussions.
There is a reason we are talking about it.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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teeheeheeeeeee



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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If a shooting war errupted, I'd fight to the death. But yes, peacefully is how it should go. It doesn't mean that it is how it will go though.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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I couldn't agree more LBE, don't let their version of the truth get in the way of history. For any of you that would like to find the truth come to Williamsburg Va., the founders put it all on the line, their lives, the finances, their families futures. The only thing these people are willing to risk is the time to complain with half truths and innuendo. The founders are spinning in their graves so fast today with the NDAA, Patriot Act, Calea Act, the disdain for Christianity, etc. I can feel the breeze inside the house. Adams died a pauper trying to sell his library for money.
This wasn't about money for them, they left us with the perfect document in which to guide this country only to have the citizens screw it up by letting politicians do stupid things over and over again. Neither of us has learned a thing. Just go and vote, make a change quit bitching become involved.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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Five posts up from your video post, I said something George Carlin said.

"America was founded by rich slave owns that wanted civilians to be free."

Haha, yes. How could you want everyone to be free and still own slaves. Also, women weren't free either. So, I guess they only fought for the men of that country.

Maybe we should've taken a cue off of Sparta. I believe it was either Athens or Sparta that regarded women actually higher than men. I believe it was Sparta though, because in the movie 300 the main character turns to his wife for approval on whether or not he should kick him in the well.

Haha. America.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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If i say yes should i expect an army of FBI agents to come after me, a man who owns no firearms and who has only gotten speeding tickets his whole life?

This is just a hypothetical question.

That's what you're asking people to take onto themselves, the danger of tearing apart their families and losing family members. It's only been 4 generations that have passed since the Civil War, the whole brother against brother thing shouldn't be that forgotten. Some people don't want to change, some like it the way it is. Some people are mentally weak and cannot fathom any other way of life. You better think long and hard before you cross that line because once you do there is no going back EVER.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by MarlinGrace
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Just go and vote, make a change quit bitching become involved.



Do you really believe that voting will change anything man? I agreed with everything in your post except for that.

Do you really think that there is a REAL difference between any politician? They ALL lie. They ALL have high promises and hopes for Americans. They ALL do the same thing, NOTHING. There hasn't been a legitimate president since Kennedy, and look at his fate.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle



they were for freedom and liberty for all men and they laid their lives on the line for it.

maybe a little research would give you a something more to know about those dead guys.

gwpapers.virginia.edu...


Yeah, freedom and liberty for all white men. If you were black you weren't even considered a man; you were property.

Perhaps you could benefit from some research as well.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by johnwilkesbooth
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Exactly sir. All they wanted to revolt about was taxes.


that'a a popular misconception. you hit on the real reason in your first post, the control of money. when the crown took away their ability to print their own money, it was on


“The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the Revolution.”

Ben Franklin

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