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I have accurate information from Middle East, Film is just a straw that broke the back

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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the real anger comes from people being sick and tired of US and Israeli sabotage over the years.

Wars
Abduction
Torture
Murder
Mind Control
Genetic experimentation
Political Subterfuge
Financial Plunder


Here's what most people don't understand. If you remove the U.S. and Israeli presence out of the Middle East, you still have all of these atrocities being committed, and it wouldn't even slow down.

If Israel was removed from the region, all that would be left over is a bunch of ideological Sunnis and Shiites fighting over creating a new Caliphate for their "Muslim State" and which one was going to rule over it.

Everyone will turn into a radical. The Sunnis will say that a descendant of Muhammad should rule over the Middle East and the Shiites will say it should be some knowledgeable cleric of the Qu'ran with good interpretation skills.

We all know what kinds of tactics radicals use to accomplish their goals. They are all of the ones that you mentioned above. Only now they will use them on each other.

Nothing changes. Well, except for the fact that when radicals are in charge of policing themselves, everyone just ends up dead instead of a few.

You haven't seen anything yet. What we've seen in the Middle East is small potatoes compared to the way it could be. Just look at Syria. That's the new Middle East without anyone else's involvement.

I don't want to hear a bunch of B.S. about the U.S. or U.N.'s involvement over there. I just read a statement by Al Qaeda blaming the U.S. for "propping up" and trying to save Assad, so whatever we think is going on over there, we don't have a freaking clue, but I bet Al Qaeda does. Obviously, we're not supporting Al Qaeda's views, according to Al Qaeda anyway.




posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Here's another blame Israel thread.

The reason there will never be peace over there is because of the leadership in Palestine. Why would this leadership make peace with Israel when perpetual violence makes them rich?

They get billions of dollars from around the world and split most of it amongst themselves. The people live horribly and they blame Israel and get billions more from around the world.

Arafat died a billionaire and his wife went on shopping trips in France. This is why he walked away at Camp David. If they make peace with Israel, they would then have to spend the billions on the people. Arafat was worth more than Jeff Bezos from Amazon.com at one point.

You never hear the irrational Israeli haters talk about this.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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I'm sorry but why isn't this thread in the Rant section? This thread has no point to it, it's just a thread of a person blowing off steam.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by DarknStormy
 


Right and I guess you are going to say Islam is peaceful and doesn’t preach hate and want to destroy America or Israel and they would never put something like that on YouTube. (ahh hemm clear throat.....B.S)


Oh I'm sorry, Maybe if you stopped funding their terrorist groups, things might become a bit easier.. I mean, even the ones who attacked the trade centres were on the US payroll at some stage.


If they had half a chance they would slaughter us all and I am tired of it. They have the us or them mentality and all I am saying is let it be them. When they take down all their hate pieces then they have a right to talk but they never had a right to attack.


Get out of their countries and let them kill each other off then.. George Bush had the same mentality also.. What was it "You are either with us, or against us." That is from the civilised world btw.


Their goal is to wipe out every non Islamic person on earth and if that leads them to their demise I think it would be poetic justice.


Your opinion may not be entirely true and the way you back your claim is nothing less then a NAZI would.


It doesn’t really matter what I think because I do not have control over America’s nukes and they can thank Allah for that.


Why? because you would blow them all to the stone age? Lovely... Know what, I hope you die of anal cancer. Because a few extremists state their hatred for the USA, Israel or any other nation, doesn't mean the entire culture feel the same way. By you saying what you did earlier, you are doing nothing different to what they are... Promoting hate.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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How long before religion uses a nuclear weapon against religion. Religion seems to be only waiting for the end of the world.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Didn't the US just recently help those Libyan's to get rid of their hated dictator Gaddafi?

I would hate to see their reaction if we had helped Gaddafi.

I sure am glad you aren't "helping" my neighborhood. The world can do without that kind of help, thank you very much.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Oh I'm sorry, Maybe if you stopped funding their terrorist groups, things might become a bit easier.


It wouldn't do any good as I've already explained. Any money that the U.S. has spent on terrorists was to gain intelligence on other terrorists supported by Middle Eastern governments. I guaranty our contributions have been incredibly smaller than those from Middle Eastern governments.

Our biggest problem is giving out "financial aid" to foreign governments who are passing it on to radicals. I think they're finally realizing it.


I mean, even the ones who attacked the trade centres were on the US payroll at some stage.


We might have given OBL money in the past, but the huge contributor to Al Qaeda (as a whole) in order to finance 9/11 was Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, the U.S. went to great lengths to cover that up because Saudi Arabia didn't know what Al Qaeda was planning, or so they say. Saudi Arabia has a history of paying off Al Qaeda in order to keep them out of Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, they're financing terrorism in order to keep it away from home.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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Know what, I hope you die of anal cancer. Beca


Yah, that makes you look so much better than the other guy



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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for aslong as i could remember i havent bought into the western reasons of invasion.
ive tryed to dig up info on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Muhammar gadaffi (Actually to prove they were nice guys, to some friends of mine.). But i simply cant seem to. So it would appear i was right, and theyre actually nice guys



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Good one.


Must be all media hype...

Lets not forget yellow cake, aluminum tubes, centrifuges, WMD (we go blank), BAD presidents and, oh yah...Burkas.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by LostPassword

IF YOU TREAT A MAN LIKE AN ANIMAL

HE BECOMES AN ANIMAL



So you are trying to argue that the Libyan Islamic fundamentalists who murdered the US diplomat are the victims?

Didn't the US just recently help those Libyan's to get rid of their hated dictator Gaddafi?

I would hate to see their reaction if we had helped Gaddafi.



Seems to me you havent read ure homework on gadaffi.
He just didnt want to trade with the western world. He gained power by revolution, and the people who used to run the country, was basically lackeys of the western mofos.
Gadaffi changed that, made sure everyone in the country had healthcare, and a percentage of their oil and natural gas export...
And funnely enough Libya is the most resource rish country in Africa.
Coincidences? nah. i think not.
He also said he supported terrorism, maybe just in spite to the western world.
But they just claimed he was part of a IRA plane tookover, and a discoteque bombing in Germany.
And made sanctions against libya, unless he would admit blame and publically apologize.
PERSONALLY I THINK ITS JUST CIA BULLCRAP Propaganda.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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I guess u didnt watch the videos of 5-6 US soldiers, or british cant recall, beating the sheit out of a 13-16 year old kid. And the camera guy almost getting off from it.
What u seek u shall find, so try look for information from the other side of the coin aswell.
Try search pro-gadaffi vids to, and anti-gadaffi, see wich has the bigger crowd



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Imagine if Mexico was taking over Texas, and by force pushing Texan


Ironic you should say that. Millions of illegals pour over the border in Texas, Arizona, and California and just live in the States. We are being taken over by way of illegal migration northward. The President of Mexico encourages this type of migration and breach of borders and even has pamphlets printed telling the migrant workers how to cross the desert without dying or being caught.
And our leaders are pandering to this demographic for votes.


Regardless U.S.A would go bankrupt without the "illegal Immigrants", also your country is like what, 300 years old?... made by immigrants. Maybe better border rules, and thoose immigrants would get the same salery as the rest of you mofos :´(



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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I am sorry,but I am having trouble sympathizing with people who cry victim while dragging some one they killed, through the streets....

Gad, I dread hearing about what you would do to those who drop tons of ordnance on other peoples homes.

This is Afghanistan, but bombs don't know that...




posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...
Good we came to save them indeed!. seems to me alot of civilians died -.- I thought we were there to stop that.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
Unfortunetly, the USA has been killing innocents for the past 10 years and if you want to go back further, since the end of WW2. Funny how you people ignore what your own elite have been doing yet are quick to judge when someone actually decides to waste one of your nationals..


Unfortunately I'm talking about this particular incident.... you know where a innocent man was killed over a movie, a movie he had nothing to do with, not post WW2. How many innocents did Saddam kill (on purpose)?, how many innocents did al qaeda kill (on purpose)?... works both ways but you can't see it and I know why you can't see it too. By your logic because Saddam and al qaeda killed innocent people, any innocent national the same as them is fair game then? Scrap that, almost everyone on the planet is fair game, sweet.


Originally posted by DarknStormy
The problem is, yous allow dipsh*ts to cause these problems when a simple law could end all of this. I can still watch that video on Youtube BTW. You would think that it would be banned.
, Talk about disrespect and you wonder why they are going nuts and killing anyone they see fit.


Thats right I do wonder why they are going nuts and KILLING anyone over a movie one person made... you obviously don't and that says a lot, it also shows how much you only see things from one point of view, a point of view, I must add, that is so dense, light bends around it.


edit on 15-9-2012 by RiverRunsFree because: went comma mad



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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You might be interested in this video that details some more reasons besides oil...

Turn down the volume a little first...




posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Again, I don't like interfering in the Middle East, but only because that region can't, and won't, be fixed.

Is there a neuter for that? Interfering in the internal affairs of other nations is the one thing the framers of our constitution warned us most about. Its why they wrote it.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Apocalypse now, huh?

Kurtz: "Drop the bomb, exterrminate them all."

"But don't let the air crews paint the word "F***" on the side of their helicopters."



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by LostPassword
Israel is the ONLY country that literally grows its borders by force and no
one in the western world says they shouldn't do it.


Ignorance like that leads to mindless violence against innocent people. Israel is condemned for building on palestinian land by many western countries, and even more western citizens.




edit on 9/15/2012 by Drezden because: (no reason given)



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