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Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
What do you think of Manly P Hall?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NOTurTypical
What do you think of Manly P Hall?
He was a Luciferian.
"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare."
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MamaJ
You've never read his statements praising Lucifer? Here's the most notable:
"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare."
Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E. Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48
Albert Pike's quotes are much worse. What do you think the "true light" of masonry is? Only the 32 and 33 rd degrees get the "revelation".
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by MamaJ
But what is the definition of 'evil'? My definition is: anything that takes away, or serves the self at the expense of others.
But what is there that takes without giving? If you look at it right, there's nothing that takes without giving. Even a murderer gives the survivors a whole new perspective, one that says, "Hey, you're still alive. You've been given a second chance. What will you do with it?" They were given that.
Even a forest fire leaves ash to nourish the next generation of plants. Even an atomic bomb gives us a lesson (brutal though it may be) in matters of what's best left alone.
In my opinion, there is nothing truly 'evil'. There is only a perspective of "that's negative" and "that's positive". Because there are very, very few things that take without giving. I can't think of any right now, but that's not to say there aren't any.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MamaJ
No thank you, I give no one an ear who sings praises to satan.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MamaJ
Lucifer = Satan. Do whatever you want. Just know this, the initiation for the Masons is the exact same as it is for witchcraft except warlocks actually cut themselves and the Masons pretend to do it. It's your life.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Your heart is closed. If you want to see the light, open it. A closed door admits no friends.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MamaJ
Lucifer isn't a "light bearer", that's a horrible Latin mis-translation of the Hebrew "Heylel ben Sachar" (crescent moon and star) from Isaiah 14:12. Jesus IS the light of the world, not the "bearer", the light itself. And I've lived a great 30+ years without Freemasonry, I don't need it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Your heart is closed. If you want to see the light, open it. A closed door admits no friends.
Thank you. And Manley Hall is dead, don't need him as a friend. Also my father is a 33° Freemason, and we have a great friendship. We never discuss his Freemasonry.