Mothership with orbs hovering around ISS - NASA cuts feed, page 3

reply to post by Bilk22

---

One thing that I have questioned about this footage is that whatever is being reflected either has intermittent lights that flash on or off as seen in the reflection. The only thing that I can come up with is that its a computer system being reflected or some anomaly with the interior lighting inside of the room that the camera is placed.

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Bilk22

---

One thing that I have questioned about this footage is that whatever is being reflected either has intermittent lights that flash on or off as seen in the reflection. The only thing that I can come up with is that its a computer system being reflected or some anomaly with the interior lighting inside of the room that the camera is placed.

I'm willing to bet the camera is on the outside of the station. That would only make sense. If you need to inspect the craft with video, mounting it on the exterior is the only sensible way to do it.

As for what ever that image is, why would who ever was controlling the camera, pan to it? It does appear the operator noticed it, panned to it and then realized others may be watching and shut it down.

Ah, maybe they're just messing with us

Reflection. See the rest of the video (which was not cut)

Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by sputniksteve

---

Well speak for yourself. I proposed a theory based on photographic evidence and asked for others to comment on it with backup evidence to the contrary. The only person to do so, to date, is the poster, Pauligirl.

I asked for evidence to the contrary and she found it. That was all I was asking for. If you had spent less time arguing and posted WHY you thought it was something else, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation. To say what it is not without any real back up data is just pointless.

And oh, by the way, so sorry you only know what exists based on what you have seen. I, on the other hand, have been privileged to witness UFOs on a couple of occasions, so I know they exist.

So maybe when it hits you in the head, you will probably come around. Good luck.

edit on 14-9-2012 by Jaellma because: (no reason given)

"To say what it is not without any real back up data is just pointless."

To say what it is without any real back up data is also pointless.

"And oh, by the way, so sorry you only know what exists based on what you have seen. I, on the other hand, have been privileged to witness UFOs on a couple of occasions, so I know they exist."

You know that unidentified things exist well so does almost every other human on this planet as no one has knowledge of all there is so its actually everyone has knowledge of unidentified things, congrats on being human.

Originally posted by HDD09
why has youtube removed the video???

Youtube didnt remove the video, danielofdoria stole the video from a girl called Madvicky1975

She edited out the end of the video showing the camera panning, and proving it was a reflection.



Above is the video she released AFTER realizing someone else had nicked it. In a bid to stop the cash coming in she outed herself as a hoaxer. That is why the videos on daniels page are removed, or because he licensed them to the news outlets for even more cash

ETA: Once again people just see what they want. It cant be a reflection, it moves...blah blah blah. Get a grip people, this was blatantly a reflection, as i said on the first page.

reply to post by loves a conspiricy

---

Way to go, thanks for posting the answer.

Of course some of us didn't need to see this video to know it was a reflection....

But apparently, some people did, and to those people, instead of saying 'I told you so', which is non productive, all I ask is that in the future, be open-minded, but not so open-minded that your brain falls out. Thinking this was a UFO was of the brain falling out type of open-mindedness.

Peace.

reply to post by JimOberg

---

Ha ha ha!!!! Jim, you are such a shill. You are no different from the guy who has spent 10 years working soooo deep undercover that he doesn't know what is real or fake anymore. You are the same person who if the evidence is put right in front of your face you would secretly believe something spectacular happened but would pull a poker face and tell the world it was a mirage and your brain was tricking you.

I think it is time you slowly remove yourself away from providing "sound" analysis of what folks claim to have seen, You are getting too drunk on all the overwhelming evidence.

Speaking about my sightings, I don't think you are 10% qualified to analyze what a group of fairly intellectual, sober and objective individuals saw in the remote parts of Central America. I don't think you need to even scoff at things you never witnessed. Sometimes it's better to leave things the way they are instead of trying to make a mockery of things people find fascinating and paranormal.

reply to post by Jaellma

---

Have you read Jim Oberg's work? He looks for facts and evidence and takes this much more seriously than many other contributors to the UFO field, and is therefore a valuable contributor even if you don't realize it or appreciate it. And based on a number of cases where people have witnessed UFOs and told many fantastic stories about their other-worldly capabilities, Jim Oberg has shown those to be things like missile launches and satellite re-entries.

So I think he has demonstrated some reason for skepticism when people tell fantastic stories of what they have seen, and there is no reason to think the observers in the remote parts of central America are any more qualified observers than the airline pilots who have been featured in Jim Oberg's work.

Moreover, he has acknowledged that perhaps 5% of cases are not explained, and perhaps nobody will ever make a determination of what was seen in those cases.

Maybe there are actually some alien spaceships in that 5%, maybe not. But since they are unidentified we really don't know. But based on the other 90-95% where people have told fantastic stories that have eventually been explained as manmade objects or natural phenomena, do you at least understand the reason for skepticism?

reply to post by Arbitrageur

---

I have read Jim Oberg's work. I know his accomplishments. I know who he has worked with over all the years. I know what he has debunked and things he has provided to this field for many many years. So don't jump the gun with assumptions before you know the facts, ok.

I am referring to his previous post. It was a direct snide remark to my response to a poster earlier in this thread.

I, along with 1/2 dozen other highly educated people, witnessed a UFO incident in Central America which, as far as I am concerned, fits into the 5% category.

For him to rebuke those comments without knowing the facts smacks of disrespect and petulance to those who witnessed the event. If he had said he found it interesting (as Phage did) that would have made sense but for him to come right out and make a dismissive statement shows poor judgement and frankly, discredits folks who have truly witnessed things they can't explain but somehow have so-called experts label it into whatever category they feel like.

He ought to know better.

reply to post by Jaellma

---

I suppose you, me and Jim Oberg could all take some diplomacy lessons from Phage, as we have all been snarky at times. Somebody has to push Phage pretty hard to make him snarky, but even that can happen with enough prodding and embracing ignorance. But I have no argument with Phage being more diplomatic in general.

reply to post by Arbitrageur

---

Ah, that will probably never happen. I am fiery, by nature, but consider myself to be level headed enough to make sound decisions. Maybe that's why Phage gets called upon all the time to be the "judge".

UFO Filmed From Avebury Crop Circle, UK With Multiple Witnesses
  Posted 19 days ago with 89 member flags

The Men In Black(OPs) The Aviary & UFOs
  Posted 12 days ago with 83 member flags

The Mysterious Baltic Sea Object : an Update from Peter Lindberg "Ocean Explorers Team"
  Posted 16 days ago with 41 member flags

Did a RAF Tornado crash during a UFO intercept mission in 1997?
  Posted 14 days ago with 39 member flags

What is this comming out of our star?
  Posted 9 days ago with 33 member flags

Huge Unknown Objects orbiting the Sun for months...?
  Posted 8 days ago with 29 member flags

The CIA and the UFO Mythos
  Posted 16 days ago with 26 member flags

UFO Reporting for the 21st Century!
  Posted 12 days ago with 26 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: