Navy Ships and Chinese Vessels Reported Off Coast of SF - developing story, page 2


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reply posted on 14-9-2012 @ 08:39 AM by POPtheKlEEN89
reply to post by JustMike



Number of ships does not matter at all, the chinese boast a huge number of outdated and dusted off vessels purchased from a number or different sources, a percentage actually constructed by China are models relevant to the last twenty years and so fairly capable by modern standards. But the real crux of the Chinese navy is an almost medieval communications and intel network compared to the multi-billion dollar space operations funded by the U.S. Navy and her funding tax payers. Not saying they are incapable but China's strategy and doctrine lie in sub warfare, and only a small percentage of their sub arsenal are subs the united states would consider 'Advanced", as well as a number of intelligently designed Anti-ship missiles and guidance systems. All in all if the Chinese navy were to confront the United States the chinese would be taking out Otto Kretschmer's playbook from ww2. Guerrilla sub tactics and sneak attacks as well choking the hell out of key shipping lanes worldwide. Either way they are still dangerous but in no way capable of head to head operations against our fleet in any situation IMO.


reply posted on 14-9-2012 @ 09:40 AM by bigyin
Originally posted by Trillium
Originally posted by bigyin
Wonder if there will be another 'missile' like last year.

That was cool.


Just maybe this so call missile test was not really a test

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Well well isn't that the thing ..... last time we discussed a sighting of a missile off west coast USA there was a Chinese Sub in the area.

We were told that time there was no missile.


reply posted on 14-9-2012 @ 11:52 AM by CaptChaos
There ARE Chinese warships entering SF Bay as we speak in a sneak attack. They launch 2650 tons of weaponry per year into Oakland. www.bts.gov... land/html/table_02.html

Oh, these are economic weapons. They are delivered to your WalMart, where you detonate them yourself.
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reply posted on 15-9-2012 @ 03:45 AM by JustMike
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to
post by POPtheKlEEN89


Thanks for your response. That's an excellent and frank summary of the relative strengths and capabilities of the two navies under discussion. No arguments from me on that score.

I was merely responding to a member who claimed that "the Chinese do not have a Navy". A statement like that bothers me because some members who are not informed on the subject could believe it, so I quoted a fairly reliable source for ship numbers and relative size/ranking of the two navies purely to show that it wasn't just my opinion, but well known and supportable.

When I said the:
...Chinese Navy is a major force and not to be taken lightly, especially in regions near their own territory.
I meant just that: it is, by world standards, a major force. Defeating it would not be a cakewalk, and within their own regions few (if any) nations would dare to try. But against the US Navy?

If the Chinese leadership ever takes on the US Navy with their own, then the statement "the Chinese do not have a Navy" would no longer be fiction.

Best regards,
~Mike

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 2-10-2012 @ 04:04 AM by bigyin
reply to post by purplemer



More info on this particular ship

Type054A Jiangkai Class Missile Frigate - No. 530

Type 054A frigate

Your thread should never have been put in the hoax bin !
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