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posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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They can demand in one hand and spit in the other one and watch which one fills up first!

People say and do stuff that offends me all the dang time, but I would fight til my last breath for them to keep the right to do it!




posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
The great thing about america is that we have free speech. The Muslim Brotherhood can demand all they want. Aint gonna change a thing.


I think there is a possibility that this could happen if he who cannot be named is re-elected.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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I think there is a possibility that this could happen if he who cannot be named is re-elected.


Now that's funny- I don't care who you are!
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posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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Well I want that Christian hater to be beheaded in public TV for the entire world to see


Oops I forgot only Muslims radical, terrorist and taliban can do that.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 08:21 PM
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Hey guys - all they want is the same treatment that we already give the Jews. Seriously. It's already a cardinal sin to be anti-semetic in this country...why not appease the Muslims as well? Hell, we should just outright ban any kind of ill mannered talk about peoples religions...right? If we do it for one, might as well do it for all...



/sarcasm



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Will the Muslim countries criminalize attacks on Christians?

I doubt it.

What a bunch of crackpot weirdos. The Muslim Brotherhood are just a bunch of violent weak people who can only exist through fear and terror. Much like sharks really.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
The Muslims should do just like the Jews do every time someone does something they don't like start crying antisemitism. After all unlike the Jews the Arabs are a Semitic people. California recently pass a law making it illegal to criticize Israel if that can be done for Israel the same can be done for Islam.


I Googled looking for the law you are talking about but I didn't find anything. I found a court case where 11 students were convicted of two criminal counts—one for conspiracy to disrupt a meeting and one for the disruption of the meeting itself but I did not find a law like what is being described in this forum. If you could post a link to this I would appreciate it.





As to the matter of what the Muslim Brotherhood is demanding. They can kiss my ###. As many speeches as I have seen of Muslims shouting death to America I am ready for war. They spout hate nonstop then claim to be a peaceful religion and I am just tired of it. They want to eradicate us from the earth and make no apologies for it well I am beginning to think the only way this sh#t will end is when either they get their wish or we take them out. I am not usually this mean spirited but they already have an us or them mentality and maybe we should as well.

IMO religion is the problem. How many wars and how many murders have to happen until the human race figures out that religion is nothing more than a bunch of BS fairytales and if there is a god he/she doesn’t give a damn what you believe. What kind of god needs to be told how great he/she is? If there is a god he/she must consider us as a huge screw-up.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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It would bother me more if Christians didn't regularly condemn all who don't agree with them. If Christians take offense to this, they are hypocrites.



Of course they take offense to this, and of course they offend others. That's the nature of the beast, and I'm not denying it. All I'm saying is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Don't go around offending folks and expecting not to be offended right back. Christians do that, Muslims do that, Jews do that. In defense of the Christians, however, I really can't recall the last time they burned down an embassy or killed an ambassador because some guy half way around the world decided to title his art work "Piss Jesus".

There is offense, and then there is violent offense. I may be offended because you use beer on your wheaties instead of milk, but I'm not going to go down the street and randomly kill off the first Mexican I see because you did - not even if you use Corona or Dos Equis.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Only half of Jerusalem belongs to Israel. UN mandate split it between Israel and Palestine. And if they chose to take it by sword so what? How do you think Israel got their half by a warm hug and saying please? And what gives Israel the right to call it their capital.


They don't. They call Tel Aviv their capitol.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by buster2010
The Muslims should do just like the Jews do every time someone does something they don't like start crying antisemitism. After all unlike the Jews the Arabs are a Semitic people. California recently pass a law making it illegal to criticize Israel if that can be done for Israel the same can be done for Islam.


If that were true, and I were you, I'd grab the nearest soapbox and hit the street corner, criticizing Israel loudly and proudly until a fly would not light on them. Sure, you may get arrested, but it provides the perfect opportunity to carry the law all the way to the SCOTUS and have the entire thing declared unconstitutional, as it most certainly is if it is as you say.

You could be famous - what are you doing sitting on ATS? get out there and get some!



If that were true? Learn what Semitic means.


Teach me. While you're at it, teach me what the capitol of Israel is.

Then you can teach me what the definition of "Semitic" has to do with California allegedly passing a law making it illegal to criticize Israel, and what bearing it has on your apparent reluctance to stand up for your First Amendment rights.

I stand ready to be schooled. Get to it.

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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I think that the upstanding muslim brotherhood are right on this. We should all follow their lead and I don't think that we should hesitate to behead or stone anyone who speaks badly of the Koran or the great prophet. After all, it makes for a great spectator event and a good day out which the whole family can enjoy as can be seen in videos of such events available online.We also get to have party like parades afterwards when we drag the offenders bodies through the streets like trophies.

How can any of this be a bad thing?




posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi

As to the matter of what the Muslim Brotherhood is demanding. They can kiss my ###. As many speeches as I have seen of Muslims shouting death to America I am ready for war. They spout hate nonstop then claim to be a peaceful religion and I am just tired of it. They want to eradicate us from the earth and make no apologies for it well I am beginning to think the only way this sh#t will end is when either they get their wish or we take them out. I am not usually this mean spirited but they already have an us or them mentality and maybe we should as well.

IMO religion is the problem. How many wars and how many murders have to happen until the human race figures out that religion is nothing more than a bunch of BS fairytales and if there is a god he/she doesn’t give a damn what you believe. What kind of god needs to be told how great he/she is? If there is a god he/she must consider us as a huge screw-up.


You seem to be confusing the Muslim Brotherhood for Muslims. Understandable, since they use that term in their organizational name, but being "Muslim" is not the source of their political activism - greed and lust for power is. Being Muslim is just an ancillary that they are hiding behind, hoping to direct ire at all Muslims, and it appears to be working.

They are much like the Westboro "Baptists" - attempting to hide political activism behind a religious veneer by employing a religious name in their organizational title.

NO religion has ever started a war. None. Zero. Zip, Zilch. Nada. Greedy and power-mad humans, on the other hand, very pften start wars, and attempt to hide their greed behind a religious title. The religion itself is not to blame - greedy, power-hungry humans misusing a religion as a shield are. Religions are abstracts, mere ideologies. They cannot pull a trigger. it takes a human finger to do that.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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NO religion has ever started a war. None. Zero. Zip, Zilch. Nada.


The bible/Koran or whatever book someone wants to believe n would disagree with you on that.

That is like saying guns don’t kill people, people do. When actuality it was the bullet.
It is a staw man argument.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
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NO religion has ever started a war. None. Zero. Zip, Zilch. Nada.


The bible/Koran or whatever book someone wants to believe n would disagree with you on that.


Books are books. They don't have minds of their own to disagree. People do that.



That is like saying guns don’t kill people, people do. When actuality it was the bullet.
It is a staw man argument.


Guns DON'T kill people. neither do bullets. Never, in the history of the world, has a bullet or a gun jumped up of it's own accord and killed anyone. Same for religion.



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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by Grimpachi
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NO religion has ever started a war. None. Zero. Zip, Zilch. Nada.


The bible/Koran or whatever book someone wants to believe n would disagree with you on that.


Books are books. They don't have minds of their own to disagree. people do that.



That is like saying guns don’t kill people, people do. When actuality it was the bullet.
It is a staw man argument.


Guns DON'T kill people. neither do bullets. never, in the history of the world, has a bullet or a gun jumped up of it's own accord and killed anyone. Same for religion.



I hate this retarded argument. Guns do kill people. Bullets kill people, people also kill people.

Saying that guns don't kill people is like saying bread knifes don't cut through bread. People cut through bread.


It's idiotic. Just because a bread knife has never jumped up and cut a loaf of bread of it's own accord does not mean that bread knifes don't cut through bread.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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Are you nuts? Why bother denying the holocaust, when it never happened to begin with! That's like denying Kim Kardashian's PhD! Not worth the effort unless you're trying to make a joke of yourself!


Why bother denying anything. Supposedly the US invaded Iraq, didn't happen.

If the US and it's allies invade Iran, murder rape and pillage, it didn't happen.

It's all lies.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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I guess that is why when someone is murdered they list the cause as person instead of gunshot stab wound ect ect.

I hate straw man arguments try harder.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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How do you criminalize assaults on an idea? A person, OK, but Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc., are beliefs only. It would be a pretty sorry day if some people had their way and were able to prosecute others because they don't agree with their beliefs. I guess the witch hunts really aren't over, huh?



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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That is so #ing repulsively disgusting.

How can they even compare speech restrictions towards the holocaust - where millions of human beings were systematically murdered - to insulting someone elses religion??

Am I missing something here?? What respect? How come Islam demands what no other religion is allowed to demand? Do people not realize that this obscene demand is an infringement on our rights - the sacred right to freedom of speech? So if we buckle under their extremism, what does that say about us? About what we believe? How pathetic a capitulation to their religious hyper-sensitivity would be.

It's insulting that anyone would even entertain the notion of curbing free speech for these religious fanatics.



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by dontreallyIt's insulting that anyone would even entertain the notion of curbing free speech for these religious fanatics.


I haven't seen anyone entertaining it at all. Please let me know if you see any statement from a US politician agreeing that there should be bans in place, because I highly doubt any politician defending the idea would be in their position six hours later.

I think people are missing the intention of this. The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't seriously expect the US to create laws restricting freedom of speech in this way. This statement - or demand - is intended to be read by their own people.

This is political brain farting, meaningless to the outside world and intended to placate their own rabid religious fundamentalists. That's all this is, and people here even talking about it is pretty pointless.

But, it's a good opportunity for the ATS community to all get their knickers in a twist.





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