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posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
I guess I don't really know what you mean by "Absolutely nothing and...he made things worse" though. Maybe you miss Osama bin Laden?

Is this really all you have to support obama's foreign policies?


Look, you do realize that obama opposed the way we actually got the information regarding where osama was hiding right? We got the info during water 'torture' which obama was against. If obama would have had his way from the beginning, he would not have been given the opportunity to make the call. Also, stop acting like it was a 'tough' call.
Would someone not take the chance to get osama? I think not.




posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Canada did something..3 days before the uprisings
www.ctvnews.ca...
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posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
This is what you gained from that information?

Umm....no.
What would give you that idea?

It was from everything pertaining to his past, his upbringing and his friends. Presently, it's the way he handles himself, his demeanor and his strange statements and actions which does not quite fit correctly compared to a previous, typical President.


So, who taught you that the President of the United States makes moment to moment manning and security detail decisions for embassies around the world?

Wow, you will twist like a pretzel to protect obama from anything negative.

Let's see....... If obama and his administration knew attacks were going to take place at the embassies, you don't have a problem with them NOT notifying them right? Is this your logic? So it would be asking to much for obama or someone from his staff to notify the embassies of some impending attack and to take precautions and lockdown the embassies.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Well, this is just typical of the Obama administration.

Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'




According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.


I don't understand. If you had credible information why not warn the diplomats and lockdown the embassy.
It makes no sense unless to further solidify that Obama is clueless and has no understanding of reality. Perhaps Obama is just inept or deep down he agrees with & has sympathy for the criminals.

EDIT:
Here is some more evidence:

Report: Egyptian Intelligence Warned of Embassy Attacks as Early as Sept 4

Could these warnings be the reason why Canada pulled their diplomats out a week ago?

Perhaps the Canadian leadership is a little smarter.
edit on 9/13/2012 by WhatTheory because: (no reason given)



Pardon me while I am unimpressed.
"American missions may be targeted" isn't really much of a warning outside of the usual danger American missions are in over there.

That's like telling a cop in a donut shop "warning, you may get powdered sugar on your shirt"



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by MrPlow
Pardon me while I am unimpressed.

I guess it's a good thing the point was NOT to impress you.

Vain much?



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by NorEaster
I guess I don't really know what you mean by "Absolutely nothing and...he made things worse" though. Maybe you miss Osama bin Laden?

Is this really all you have to support obama's foreign policies?


Look, you do realize that obama opposed the way we actually got the information regarding where osama was hiding right? We got the info during water 'torture' which obama was against. If obama would have had his way from the beginning, he would not have been given the opportunity to make the call. Also, stop acting like it was a 'tough' call.
Would someone not take the chance to get osama? I think not.


If you read the book that the SEAL (who was part of the team that carried out the mission) put out this last week, the info came from a woman that was working with us. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just another guy throwing crap against the wall to see if something sticks. Do some research.
edit on 9/14/2012 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by NorEaster
This is what you gained from that information?

Umm....no.
What would give you that idea?

It was from everything pertaining to his past, his upbringing and his friends. Presently, it's the way he handles himself, his demeanor and his strange statements and actions which does not quite fit correctly compared to a previous, typical President.


So, who taught you that the President of the United States makes moment to moment manning and security detail decisions for embassies around the world?

Wow, you will twist like a pretzel to protect obama from anything negative.

Let's see....... If obama and his administration knew attacks were going to take place at the embassies, you don't have a problem with them NOT notifying them right? Is this your logic? So it would be asking to much for obama or someone from his staff to notify the embassies of some impending attack and to take precautions and lockdown the embassies.


Are you using the same insight and expertise that you used to determine that bin Laden's location came from some waterboarded woman at Git Mo?


Man, this is too easy.

Obama isn't professionally positioned under Sec. Clinton as a State Dept. diplomatic corp middle manager. Sorry. You have no clue about how the US government is structured. I'm amazed that you have no idea how funny your argument sounds. The WH has NOTHING to do with how the State Dept is run at the embassy level. Not even a little bit. It also doesn't micro-manage the Pentagon or the Justice Dept. or the Dept. of Commerce or the Treasury Dept. or any of the cabinet functions. The WH appoints people to head those departments up, and they trust them to run them. Those people are called Cabinet Secretaries. Look it up.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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This morning I was wondering what was in the video - I was thinking about watching it.

Then it occurred to me just how POPULAR all this violence is going to make this movie. After all, without the riots, very few people who have noticed it on youtube. Millions of people are going to see this anti-Muslim movie.

I always look at the final outcome to determine the intent of actions.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Daughter2
This morning I was wondering what was in the video - I was thinking about watching it.

Then it occurred to me just how POPULAR all this violence is going to make this movie. After all, without the riots, very few people who have noticed it on youtube. Millions of people are going to see this anti-Muslim movie.

I always look at the final outcome to determine the intent of actions.


I'd be surprised if an entire movie actually exists. That trailer doesn't seem like a normal trailer that movies generally have. It's like a weird outtake compilation that's designed to just piss off Muslims. I hope someone credible gets to the bottom of who financed that messed up video clip. The timing just seems too advantageous, and the murkiness of the "director's" identity stinks of dirty political tricks scheduled to make the 9/11 date erupt with instability in the Middle East. Not an October Surprise, but then 9/11 is in September, so what're you gonna do...y'know?



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
If you read the book that the SEAL (who was part of the team that carried out the mission) put out this last week, the info came from a woman that was working with us. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just another guy throwing crap against the wall to see if something sticks. Do some research

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Take your own advice regarding research and have more than 1 recently published book as your only source.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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If obama and his administration knew attacks were going to take place at the embassies, you don't have a problem with them NOT notifying them right? Is this your logic? So it would be asking to much for obama or someone from his staff to notify the embassies of some impending attack and to take precautions and lockdown the embassies.

Actually, it does have a certain logic from one perspective...

If the US wants to protect the source of information they would not make such an announcement. It could give away the source. Not only but those embassies are already heavily fortified. The barbed wire atop iron gates and fortress thick cement walls with armored glass preclude most any breaching tools (except in Libya where they used RPG's and heavy machine guns?) They are always on "lockdown" as you put it.

What would you have the memos issued by the State Dept say? "Pssst... hey guys... don't go outside." The embassies are already constructed so strongly because the US knows how intolerant other countries are of this nation. It would be the safest place around in a sudden attack. And shutting down because of threats well, they are always receiving threats. They hate us. You do know that, by now?



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
Are you using the same insight and expertise that you used to determine that bin Laden's location came from some waterboarded woman at Git Mo?

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
I never said anything about a woman.



Man, this is too easy.

You are correct given your error mentioned above.

Don't think I will be counting on your memory for accuracy.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by NorEaster
If you read the book that the SEAL (who was part of the team that carried out the mission) put out this last week, the info came from a woman that was working with us. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just another guy throwing crap against the wall to see if something sticks. Do some research

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Take your own advice regarding research and have more than 1 recently published book as your only source.


And this is your response? That the SEAL's account of that raid and the intel isn't accurate? Take it up with him, Jethro. I believe him. He was there.

You may be backing a loser here. Seriously. The information on this is pretty solid, and your waterboarding claim just doesn't survive any level of scrutiny. Why don't you try birtherism. I don't know. That's pretty flimsy too, but at least you'll have company.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by NorEaster
Are you using the same insight and expertise that you used to determine that bin Laden's location came from some waterboarded woman at Git Mo?

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
I never said anything about a woman.


I know. You didn't even know that it was a woman who provided the intel that landed bin Laden. You think it was obtained by waterboarding. I just assumed that you'd have to claim that she was waterboarded, since the intel came from her. I was simply thinking ahead to your next shift on the story.



Man, this is too easy.

You are correct given your error mentioned above.

Don't think I will be counting on your memory for accuracy.


That SEAL's memory is what's central here. YOU tell him that he's lying. Go ahead. I'll stand back here...out of the way.
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posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Same reasons why we had repeated intelligence warnings of 9/11 but those were also repeatedly ignored.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
That SEAL's memory is what's central here. YOU tell him that he's lying. Go ahead. I'll stand back here...out of the way.


Wow, you need more than 1 source:

Osama bin Laden's death may reignite torture debate

CIA Director Leon Panetta confirms that waterboarding led to Osama Bin Laden

Guantanamo torture was the key: Detainees led the CIA to Bin Laden's hideout

Perhaps these links will help with your "research".


Like shooting fish in a barrel.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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Please check out my topic in the Education and Media forum explaining how Egypt's satellite TV was complicit in the killing of Chris Stevens US Ambassador to Libya and 3 other Americans.

Egypt's NileSat satellite TV inciting terrorism in North Africa and the Middle East




posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 11:06 PM
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okay, will take a look.
thanks!



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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Imagine if Jerry Lwler reacted with dominance everytime someone said Andy Kaufman was a threat!



posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by guohua
reply to post by Domo1
 


Friend,,,,,,, who does Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton walk behind and answer too?
Micky Mouse?
No,,,,This Man.



Is that George W Bush wearing an Obama mask?

Oh yes






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