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reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 05:27 PM by smurfy
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Originally posted by thepresident
The Ron Paul Excuse Club is even more awesome than the
Attack Obama Club
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G Edward Griffin is talking about you and your Obama:




That's not a good example for either 'Camp' IMO. I note how the monopolists are glossed over as a fancy word, either that, or that section is not shown?? I don't think RP would use that particular segment as a vote catcher anyway. I had already guessed that the last third would bring into play the issue of (1) colour, (2) their minor place in society, (he actually says black people) with presumably an unknown potential, (implied). Something to be very afraid of, (implied) blah blah. He still talks about 'corporations'...sorry, fecking great monopolies today, as if they were just a bunch of friends got together to make toy train sets and perambulators. I mean, does anybody really believe that stuff while watching, and chomping on their burger with artificial cheese included.


reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 06:58 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Annee


Annee.. Ron Paul is the only candidate that supports individual rights.
Far more than Obama who told the gay population that he "supports" them and then doing nothing for them. Actually he took the stance of "leaving it up to the states" which as you may not be aware was Ron Paul's long time stance except when he says it liberals think it's a bad thing.

If you want marriage equality and an end to attacks on women's freedom to choose you would be supporting Ron Paul. Time to do real research and not listen to other people.


reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 07:06 PM by Annee
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Annee.. Ron Paul is the only candidate that supports individual rights.


And individual rights in a population of 312+ million people means what?

Sorry - but state rights for anything beyond differing geological and economical needs - - belongs back in the 1700s (estimate) when it was implemented.

If you want marriage equality and an end to attacks on women's freedom to choose you would be supporting Ron Paul. Time to do real research and not listen to other people.


Are you out of your mind? Ron Paul is a fundamental southern Baptist who voted against everything that had to do with women's rights.

Oh! That's right - - us women can just pick and choose the states that do support women's rights. What a joke!

I know how things were before the Fair Housing Act - Civil Rights Act - Disability Act. I witnessed how people formed their little "same thought" communities and excluded any undesirable. No thanks!

I don't listen to people. That's why my viewpoint is independent and I'm not following the Ron Paul "rose colored glasses" crowd.

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reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 07:11 PM by Dance4Life
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And the NDAA means exactly what to you personally? I take it you support Obama? Thats cool, I mean whatever, but it is laughable that you state Ron Paul isn't for your personal freedoms.


reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 07:19 PM by Annee
Originally posted by Dance4Life
reply to post by Annee


And the NDAA means exactly what to you personally? I take it you support Obama? Thats cool, I mean whatever, but it is laughable that you state Ron Paul isn't for your personal freedoms.


What does the NDAA have to do with this? Oh - let me guess. That is YOUR "individual" little Pet Peeve.

Reminds me of the Occupy movement. "WE" are all unhappy. Of course there is no leader - - because we are "individually" unhappy because "ME" "ME "ME" - - - has my own little Pet Peeve.

I like Obama because he is a methodical thinker. Not because I agree with everything he does. I relate to methodical thinking. Its that simple.



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reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 08:04 PM by Dance4Life
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Dance4Life
reply to post by Annee


And the NDAA means exactly what to you personally? I take it you support Obama? Thats cool, I mean whatever, but it is laughable that you state Ron Paul isn't for your personal freedoms.


What does the NDAA have to do with this? Oh - let me guess. That is YOUR "individual" little Pet Peeve.

Reminds me of the Occupy movement. "WE" are all unhappy. Of course there is no leader - - because we are "individually" unhappy because "ME" "ME "ME" - - - has my own little Pet Peeve.

I like Obama because he is a methodical thinker. Not because I agree with everything he does. I relate to methodical thinking. Its that simple.



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NDAA does deal with your personal freedoms. Not any one individuals. Not even sure what you are talking about when you say me,me,me. It just makes you look foolish. Not sure how reminding you of the NDAA makes you think of Occupy?

So how does his methodical thinking get us to Libya, extending the Patriot Act, keeping Guantanamo open, going after medical marijuana patients in California and the NDAA? At this point it is obvious you have no answer for this. But hey, he is methodical, whatever that means.


reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 09:01 PM by Dance4Life
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OK. Have a nice evening.



reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 11:42 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Annee


Not quite and NO I am not out of my mind.
You have to actually look at what he says and how he has worked.
He has to be very careful when he has to appease a core of social conservatives. In reality he doesn't think the gay marriage or abortion issues should be federal issues so he has no desire to deprive anyone of their rights.
He may be personally opposed to abortion and marriage equality, but it honestly doesn't matter because he won't violate his principles as a constitutionalist. If you want to see actual CHANGE support someone that gives the power back to the people (via the states) than leaving the control in the hands of corporations and rich people by leaving it to congress and the federal government.

I am sorry you are very wrong if you think that leaving it to the states is an obsolete idea. The fact is the government has gotten waaay too large. You may want some of your pet issues to reside in limbo eternally, but we don't. We want to give them to the states so we don't have people (like you in this instance) voting for poor candidates based on pet issues. Ron Paul's religion plays no part in his policy or platform yet you bring it up like it does.


reply posted on 16-9-2012 @ 11:45 PM by GogoVicMorrow
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"his beliefs are rooted in his religious beliefs" That doesn't really make sense.

It is however, just absolute garbage annee. You are better than that. You are prejudging a bit here.

Paul does not allow his religion to dictate his platform.


Actually watch this, tell me you disagree with this baptist on this topic:


So he supported gay marriage to the same degree (actually more so than Obama), but Obama gets praise for giving the SAME EXACT ANSWER. Gay people are crying about how proud of their president they are when they should be insulted by his halfassedness. He says he supports them, but that's it, no action. Ron Paul however is saying take government out of it which would allow all to be married by whatever church will marry them and that IS EXACTLY WHAT GAY PEOPLE WANT.
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reply posted on 17-9-2012 @ 08:21 AM by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by dmsuse


Well sounds like you're fresh out of luck then now that Ron's not running as a 3rd party candidate.

It's very disappointing in the grand scheme of things.
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