posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 06:43 AM
Originally posted by HiGilgamesh
half of nato cant even take/hold afganistan etc...
What on Earth are you talking about?
ANY other time in history, the campaign into Afghanistan and Iraq would have been considered a COMPLETE and HASTY success. We have complete air
superiority. We have destroyed their military. We have destroyed their infrastructure. We have installed and shaped their new governments. All this
was accomplished with a death toll that is incredibly small compared to pretty much any other war the US has fought. If that's not a success, I
don't know what is. Not to mention that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were by NO means "all out war" If the US would have conducted anything
close to "all out war" against those two nations the whole world would be in an uproar even more than it is right now, and their nations would be
even more destroyed.
If your goal for the wars is to get the locals to like you, well that's just never going to happen ANYWHERE anybody wages war. That's never the
point of a war in the first place.
So how exactly do you consider Iraq and Afghanistan not "taken" Are the Iraqi and Afghan Military currently holding out against coalition forces?
What territory do they currently hold? Oh, none? Oh, the military of both countries were utterly decimated? That's called a success.
A rag-tag group of rebels launching suicide attacks and laying down IEDs here and there doesn't mean we didn't win the war. It means some locals
don't want us there. We destroyed the previous regime and installed our own. Job done. Time to go home.
To say the coalition forces had any difficulty defeating both Iraq and Afghanistan is just plain silly. That's like saying the first gulf war wasn't
won, or saying WWI and WWII weren't won.
As far as the premise of the OP, I don't even think it deserves a response. The idea of that happening is completely ridiculous. There is no reward
for China or Russia to Nuke Israel. It won't accomplish anything for them, and it would bring them nothing but trouble. The leadership of Russia and
China aren't stupid, it's asinine to suggest they would attack Israel at all, let alone NUKE Israel. I mean come on, WTF.
It's like talking about China nuking Iceland, it's pointless.