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Often when reading ingredients, where you expect to see Vanilla, you will see Vanillin. You can Google Vanillin with aspartame and note how often it is combined. One woman had serious neurological problems and thought she wasn't using aspartame until she realized the Vanilla coffee was in reality, vanillin with aspartame, but only the Vanillin was labeled.
What are the risks to children who consume excess aspartame?
The protective enzymes in a baby's brain are still immature, and therefore are unable to effectively detoxify the excitotoxins that enter its brain. This would mean that in the case of a pregnant woman eating meals high in excitotoxin taste enhancers, the baby could be exposed to these high glutamate levels for many hours. It is not unreasonable to assume that mothers will eat several meals and snacks containing various forms of excitotoxins such as MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and aspartame. This could produce a high concentration of glutamate exposure in the baby's brain several times a day. Also significant is the fact that the immature brain is four times more sensitive to the damaging effects of excitotoxins than the adult brain. Thus, following a dose of MSG, the baby's blood level of glutamate may remain high for many hours. Since no experimental work can be done on pregnant women or children, we must look to animal research studies for some clues. "In a study with mice and rats Toth and Lajtha found that, when giving aspartame and glutamate either as single amino acids or as liquid diets over a prolonged time (several hours to days), they could significantly elevate brain levels of these supposedly excluded excitotoxins. Brain tissue levels of aspartic acid rose as high as 61% and glutamate levels rose 35% in brain tissue over prolonged feeding... Humans are exposed to high concentrations of excitatory food additives throughout the day by consuming a variety of processed foods and diet drinks."2 Plasticity of the brain is important in the learning process. Even when the baby is in the womb, the brain of the infant is being stimulated by sounds, touch, and even light, causing changes in the brain's structure in important ways. Babies move and play with their toes, suck their thumbs, and react to noises and music after only six weeks in the womb. All of this stimulation causes the pathways in the brain to change and develop. At birth the baby's brain chemistry functions homogeneously -- the biochemical reactions occur evenly throughout the brain. But soon after birth, the brain undergoes a rapid acceleration in growth and function. During this period the level of glutamine, the precursor of glutamate, rises very rapidly in some of the areas of the brain. Glutamate helps to regulate the development of the wiring of nerves in the new brain. As the child grows, even beyond teen years, these developing connections grow as well. This process of molding the brain continues throughout life, but the majority of growth takes place within 0-7 years of life. During these critical years, if unborn and young children are fed drinks or food containing aspartame, over-stimulation can occur. It is important to appreciate that many of the toxic effects of excitatory amino acids occur at a time when no outward symptoms develop. The child does not become sick or throw up, or have any behavior that would alert the parents that something is wrong.
Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
That's disgusting. I used to drink lots of diet soda, every day, and I noticed my short-term memory getting pretty bad among other things, so I stopped drinking the stuff. About a year or 2 later I noticed my memory (which has always been good normally) start to return, as well as my brain just being all around "faster" again. Now I can't imagine how dangerous this poison would be on a baby...
I don't have a kid yet, but I'll be sure to give her clean food only (I don't think I can trust baby foods either) and make sure she only gets milk from her mother. I had no idea they were already disguising aspartame though, so thanks a lot for this heads up. I'll keep my eyes peeled for this... "Vanillin."edit on 13/9/12 by AdamsMurmur because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by winofiend
Hmm, so if something lists Vanillin on it and happens to have Aspartame included with it, that makes it Vanillins fault..
Good logic. I wonder if they also mix Water with Aspartame? Yikes. Better not drink anything with water in it. Dear god I SHOWER IN THAT STUFF!!!!!!!
I have no idea about you lot, but where I live they have to lists all ingredients on a label, including any artificial sweetener. This sounds to me like people who don't know what they're doing, spreading disinformation/misinformation and as the flow of whispers inevitably ends up on ATS, now it's available for others to think Vanillin is some evil synthetic cancer causing kitten killing deity sent to rot your brains instead of your teeth.
PS, you mention "Why would they mention Aspartame" with Vanillin. Why wouldn't "they"? "They" are not the ones saying how extremely deadly it is.
Originally posted by KatieVA
You need to slow down and read things properly.
If vanillin (which is an artificial flavour that tastes like vanilla) is in a list of ingredients, it is almost certain that you'll find aspartame right there next to it.
Vanillin is a phenolic aldehyde, an organic compound with the molecular formula C8H8O3. Its functional groups include aldehyde, ether, and phenol. It is the primary component of the extract of the vanilla bean.
Synthetic vanillin, instead of natural vanilla extract, is sometimes used as a flavoring agent in foods, beverages, and pharmaceuticals.
However, people such as the woman I quoted in my OP find that if vanillin is listed alone without aspartame, they still seem to suffer from the same adverse reactions they get when they consume aspartame, which MIGHT indicate that the aspartame is still there but isn't being listed.
Yes, this is VERY possible, food companys can and do include ingredients in their products without listing them. This would be a perfect example of such, considering the sales of said baby milk would go through the floor if people knew aspartame was in it.
So the conspiracy here is...are they putting aspartame in baby formula,
seeing as vanillin is listed in it's ingredients and 99% of the time aspartame is right there with it,
hidden or not? That's the question I'm trying to ask here - no fearmongering involved I'm afraid.edit on 13-9-2012 by KatieVA because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by winofiend
Do you know that 100% of people who die, also have Feet? It is therefore simple to deduce that walking is a sign that someone is about to die.
Originally posted by Meldionne1
Maybe we can find a forensic scientist to test some baby formula for it...or a product that has vanillin in it to see if the aspartame is hidden but not listed! Any one know one who would do it? ...it wouldn't surprise me if its there but not listed...but without proof...maybe the synthetic vanillin is the culprit? After all it is SYNTHETIC ! And that word - synthetic- mixed with my food ...is just scary to me....
Originally posted by TXRabbit
Aspertame is in almost every single brand of chewing gum as well. Show me a kid that doesn't chew gum!
I guess they use it because the sweetness lingers thus the claim "long lasting flavor..".
yeah - that ain't the only lasting effect
Originally posted by LightWarrior11
You're right, but not every brand has the deadly ingredient in it.
I always take my time when buying any food, don't care who's looking, I check the label on everrryyttthiinnggg..
I was surprised to find that trident didn't have aspartame in it, since it's a brand that's been around for so long.
It was usually those colorful, eye catching, super juicy brands that had all the killings in it.
I also noticed they put it in lip gloss as well.