reply to post by otherpotato
Well firstly, I was only defensive, because the majority of the time, when the issue of rape comes up, I hardly can get a word edge wise before
somebody twists my view into something mysogenist..
Thank you for not doing that. Let me address your post.
The pamphlet (and many other sources) state(s) that women who dress provocatively risk rape. So there is an assumption that provocative dress
and rape are linked.
Provocative dress is encouraged in women. It is encouraged from the time women are young through Barbie, Monster High and Bratz Dolls, through
advertising, through television shows, through glorified slut celebrities, through "Girls Gone Wild" videos... the list is endless.
So explain to me how I got this "rape culture" statement wrong.
Women are encouraged to dress sexy, it's an empowerment thing if you ask feminists and although I don't believe it SHOULD contribute to rape, it's
safe to say that some men will target women for their looks exclusively, not just whether or not they are easy to get to.
I just don't think that dressing sexy = you want to get rape, or = we encourage you to go out and get raped. Why would a women need to change the
way she dresses if she's comfortable with it, to suit the needs of men who may or may not be sexual deviants?
I'm not saying don't pay attention, again, situational awareness is important. But I urge women to not plan their day around not being raped.
This has nothing to do with misandry. I believe men are just as much the victims of this line of thinking. I would venture to guess there is a
whole lot of date rape that is the direct result of this type of message.
Most rapists are not "monsters." They are average men who would never have believed they were capable of what they did had you asked them before it
I'll agree with the first sentence, there is a lot of abuse towards men regarding date rape. According to some if two peopel are drunk and ahve sex,
but the women did not expressly consent to the sex, as in said nothing, then that's rape.
That is nonsense but anybody with common sense can see that.
As for the second, I do believe that ALL rapists are monsters. If you aren't, then you have a sever pshychological problem, so maybe there's less
blame there. But to rape soembody, takes a special kind of person.
I know because I am man who has been raped, not by a woman, but I've been in that situation. Not as a child either. The ammount of abuse I've put
with with and the ammount of blame people put on my shoulders for somebody else's decision has been insane.
Thank god I have a very strong support system and was able to move through those issues. Anyway the point is that I've never met anybody who had
raped somebody that was a good person, at least not at time they did it and not shortly there after.
And most "sluts" are not that way because they genuinely enjoy it. They were brought up to believe that their function in life is to be a
pretty toy for men.
This is an equal opportunity issue - and a very big problem in my mind. Why not talk honestly about it instead of getting defensive.
I dont' blame people for liking sex. I don't believe that the vast majority of that colorful word you used are bad. I think they simply enjoy sex
and should not be shamed for it. That's why I would love to see legalized sex work, in safe, clean environments.
Again my problem arises from the fact that most rape conversations are VERY one sided.