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posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Just my opinion but, does this just look like the kids that thought it was a good idea to throw rocks at a hornets nest, and now are just trying to do what they can before the pain comes? To some, the killing of four people in the embassy is a good reason to send in the troops and they know it.

If killing is the answer, it had to be a really stupid question.




posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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Here are some recent pictures from Libya about the recent terrorist attacks and murders. There are billions of Muslims and only a very small minority committed these attacks and they do not represent Islam and the people of Libya just wanted to remind you of that.


I agree.

But doesn't it seem a little old fashioned ?

They find a minority , govt support it and MSM demonstrate the minority as the majority of people.

When is the time that people can understand this ?

Those minority groups are helped and reasons for all false flags and terrors.

Muslims don't need to apologize.

Others need to learn this fact.

And some Muslims ,too.

So , please open your eyes

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posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Here's the difference: our most tolerable offenders are guys who stand around funerals saying, "God Hates Fags".

The Christians who bomb abortion clinics or kill for whatever stupid religious reason end up on capital murder charges, take the long walk, and get a needle put into their arm. They are removed from the human race.

We kill our religious fanatics. Islam does not. Islam tolerates them. They cower in the corner from their fanatics. If the majority actually grew a spine and stomped out their murderous minority like we do ours, then we'd all be better off.

They can keep their apologies, trade it for a capital punishment system, and keep this from happening again.

Until they're willing to stand-up for themselves all apologies are lip service.

"I'm sorry" means not doing it again.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:17 AM
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It's funny. Rule of thumb is that only "15-20%" of Muslims are radical. That's millions of people, seems like a big deal to me.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
while I don't discount the sentiment, am I the only noticing the same signs being being held by different people in different pictures?




I noticed that right away too, seems they passed that one sign around a bit.

The one that says Profit instead of Prophet.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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So why isn't the mainstream media reporting this? Oh because it doesn't fit the agenda for holy war huh? These "savages" can make signs and apologize for something they nor their religion had anything to do with and the "news" is silent. Thugs don't represent these people just the same as Al Capone does not represent America.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by Lysergic

Originally posted by Crakeur
while I don't discount the sentiment, am I the only noticing the same signs being being held by different people in different pictures?




I noticed that right away too, seems they passed that one sign around a bit.

The one that says Profit instead of Prophet.


Most likely reason for the wrong spelling,
they are writing in English which obviously is not their first language.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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seems very staged to me, same signs held by different people.......do these people even know what the signs say?

Not gonna fall for this obvious propaganda.

why apologise anyway, sure it's not as if America and her buddies havent done much worse to these and many others throughout the world all in the name of "peace and liberty"

sorry but reality is reality.........and this is not.....



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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How nice of them



I'm also thinking about making a sign and go outside 'protesting' here in Europe. Something about - irony, sarcasm, satire and the human right to make fun and mock any religion under the sun. JUST DEAL WITH IT!



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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The problems with the West are at the core of government and corporation. The problems with the Middle East begin with the dogmatic individual. The "modest" Muslims should really have made themselves known by now if they are the majority, otherwise this is just No true Scotsman rhetoric.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
I think the majority of people in Libya do not want to hurt anyone. We can't judge a whole population of a nation by the actions of a fsmall minority of radical people.


Then where are these people when the fanatics are running amok? if this is the majority, why then do they not go out there face upto the fanatics and lunatics, that are making westerners see all muslims in the same light.

Even the local police were slow to show up and when they did, they did nothing.

Is this really the majority of muslims depicted here in these images or are they a minority..?



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 03:43 AM
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I know its not much of a consolation but Christians committed atrocities in the past also because of their religion.

Religious wars are as old as religions themselves.

The sad fact of the matter is: Religion makes people do these kinds of things. History bears this out.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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I'll say it
False Flag

This incident now gives the US government a reason to invade yet another Middle Eastern country.

There is a consistent pattern of this behavior over the last 30 years. won't be long til we are bombing these civilians who do not represent a group of radicals, now are these the radicals the same people we supplied weapons to? HM?



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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I love those pictures!
Compassionate and loving people!

I have studied religion and I can say for sure that islam is a loving, tolerant and forgiving religion.
It has just been distorted over the years by certain individuals.

Mohammad preached tolerance and love towards all other religions and prophets.
But Mohammad was also a political genius and Islam has always been a very political religion. That is something that some people will try and take advantage of. Turning it around for their personal gain.

Edit:
Even if the signs are being passed around, it does not really matter, as long as the people holding the signs stands by the message.
This could surely be staged, but I choose to believe it is not.
I am so tired of the b***s*** madness going on.... I need something positive today.
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posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 04:44 AM
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star & flag.

and my heart goes out to both, mr. stevens and innocent libyans and muslims whose sincere faith is being endlessy messed around with.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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Personally, I'd say Libya is a funny country in terms of what we're used to dealing with and this could very well be quite sincere. There has to be some reason this consulate was so WEAK on security and design. Cryptome comes through again, and here are Wednesday's satellite photos of the Consulate compound that was over-run and destroyed.

Overhead photos of Consulate and photos during the sacking of the compound

By all reports I read, Libya had been a very isolated and cut off country in terms of getting a lot of outside attention or contact as well as the trouble in the rest of the region. Of course, Egypt was stable and peaceful a couple years ago too. So much has changed and so quickly.

However, if Libya turned against us and this was a Muslim thing, we'd have outright lost the Embassy in Tripoli too. Remember Beirut and Mogadishu. Remember Tehran. If the whole city turns against them, it'll take massive, local military intervention from outside the area. Israel is no pushover at the most friendly of times, and they DID lose their Embassy in Cairo, at least for a short time.

I'd say we have a window of time to get our people OUT of Libya, at least. The U.S. hasn't been welcome there in a few decades. Why they figured there wouldn't be a % still happy to kill us is beyond me but we overthrew their Government with mercenaries and Jihadis from around the region, then rolled right in and set up shop. What is the State Department thinking??? I wonder some days if the leadership DOES believe their own B.S. and is really this naive?



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide

Originally posted by Kualros
The people depicted in the above photos ARE the proper and true representation of the vast majority of Muslims -- those who are just as horrified and upset by terrorism as we Americans are.

We appreciate the support, and may Allah bless you and yours in all things.

[EDIT] Star and flag to you, OP.
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We all understand that, and I feel sorry for those people who have to deal with the consequences of the extremists....but I still have to say there is a significant portion of Muslims who have extremist beliefs.


Just as there are a significant number of right-wing Christians with radical beliefs too.

Religious extremists come in all shapes and sizes, in some countries they attack others physically, in the USA they often attack others through lobbying, media crusades, political speeches, accusations and insult. Their mission seems to be removing the rights of others and subjugating people to become "less than" them. Why are these Christian radicals considered to be any different than the Taliban, or any other religious group victimizing others and trying to take control through religious arrogance?

IMO, extremism isn't just blowing things up or killing people who don't follow your rules, it's everything from the radical Christian church banning black people from marrying to the bigoted religious group lobbying government to change state law.

So, what action would you take against Christian extremists in the West?

The only solution - in my opinion - is to remove religion (all religion) from governance of any kind. From state to central government, there needs to be a concerted effort to make it clear that laws will never be changed to suit a religious group when those laws affect the entire population of a state or country.

To the OP, thank you for sharing these images. I think it's vitally important to remind people that not all religious people are sick and twisted. Many are moderate and understand right from wrong.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 05:28 AM
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It's heart warming to see such a response from Libyans. I don't know whether it's just because of media censorship, but there's been a complete lack of outrage from alot of islamic/muslim countries over atrocities commited by extremists. Hopefully the response from Libyans is the start of the muslim world pushing back against the extremists and being a bit more proactive about weeding out the bad element. Also going to be interesting to see if these photos make it to mainstream media/front page newspapers....



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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Hope; something to strive for.


It appears follks are awakening just in the nick of time.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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The signs were all made by the same person(s) - its called inverse propaganda............Islam is EXACTLY like what we saw in the slaughter of the embassy staff.............worse really and you will soon find out how much worse - Obama will surely see to it.

BTW Stevens was part of the Obama/Hillary "terror state" tactics........do not feel sorry for him or for any of the others. He was a CIA operative and that's the real reason they went after him.

America has NO BUSINESS there or in any other place we have invaded.

See here- Looks like the US Ambassador to Libya got exactly what he deserves.
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