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intrptr
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As if that wash't ill mannered. By the way, I learned in "church" that the answers aren't there. I learned that as a kid. Whats your excuse?
In my loge we support a hospice, not only with charity-money (which is donated anonymously) but with regular visits. Its part of masonic life to care for those less fortunate. And its part of Christian life too. It should be part of anyones life on earth, as far as I`m concerned.
Symbols and rites known only to the practitioners are simply a way to feel superior. To look down on others who don't practice with you, to see them as "less than" yourself.
Secret rites and symbols are the Masons way of feeling above everyone else not of the order.
Let me know what you find atop that lonely pinnacle.
It will be the devil saying good, you have bowed down to me, now the world is yours.
Enjoy your silly little boys club…
“According to Gnostic legends and myths, the great Unknowable God sent Lucifer, angel of indescribable fire and light, to show man the light and to help him wake up and see his true origin, the origin of his Spirit, which has been perversely imprisoned in this impure matter called body-soul. He is an uncreated being, who came to the created world to bring Light: Liberating Gnosis. The saving knowledge which can wake man up and help him free his imprisoned Spirit. The knowledge which allows him to know who he truly is, why he is here in this world and what he has to do to liberate himself and fulfil his Spirit, which belongs to another uncreated and unknowable plane.
We have said that Lucifer came to the world to wake man up, to help him remember his divine origin, the divine origin of his Spirit, and to help him free himself from the body-soul in which he is trapped, and from created time and matter.”
Jose M. Herrou Aragon, “Primordial Gnosis: The Forbidden Religion "
“It is but natural to view Satan, the Serpent of Genesis, as the real creator and benefactor, the Father of Spiritual mankind. For it is he who was the “Harbinger of Light,” bright radiant Lucifer, who opened the eyes of the automaton created by Jehovah, as alleged; and he who was the first to whisper: “in the day ye eat thereof ye shall be as Elohim, knowing good and evil” – can only be regarded in the light of a Saviour."
Madame Blavatsky
D377MC
The OP is therefore correct when he denies that Masons worship Lucifer. They worship a great Unknowable God who sent Lucifer, angel of light, to show man the light.
I see all this as nothing more, nothing less than a question of semantics. Boring.
If we are going to have another of these threads, could we maybe address things that might interest everyone?
Here are a few points I think it would be interesting for the OP to address, instead of pontificating on issues of semantics:
- the Kabbalah, basis of the doctrine of the Masons
- the Kabbalah, mixture of secret doctrines of Babylon and Egypt
- the purpose of Freemasonry, symbolic rebuilding of the Temple of Solomon
- the secret purpose, destruction of the Christian Church and all Christian States
Then it would at least tie-in with current world events, and allow us to discuss the juicy stuff, like magic, demonology, the evocation of spirits, sorcery, spiritualism, and all sorts of other sordid excitement.
Sorry you found it boring, at the time I authored this I felt it needed to be discussed due to the amount of, 'You worship the Devil/Lucifer/Satan!', cries that were thrown about. It has diminished somewhat but still happens all too frequently.
D377MC
Ninety percent of which is due to a single truncated quote of Albert Pike taken out of context. I love the internet, but sometimes I swear its usage should be awarded on merit...
intrptr
reply to post by Skyfloating
In my loge we support a hospice, not only with charity-money (which is donated anonymously) but with regular visits. Its part of masonic life to care for those less fortunate. And its part of Christian life too. It should be part of anyones life on earth, as far as I`m concerned.
I stand corrected about masons not helping less fortunate. My apologies. Thats a human thing to do by the way, not just "religious".
In other words its the human thing to do, not just "Christian". Plenty of people help others who aren't affiliated with any religious faith or belief system.
Mans inhumanity to man is what plagues the world today. And some of that is surely done in the name of their god. Others will say, I don't harm anyone. I find that hard to quantify since they pay taxes which certain portions of go directly towards building weapons that are used against humans around the world. How humane is that?
One hand doesn't know what the other is doing…
How is it that you have so much hatred for a group you admittedly, do not understand?
Charity is the foundation of masonry.
intrptr
I said I was done, and I apologized for insulting Masons because I was caught in a weak moment. This is what I really think about it, though. Not Masons in particular, rather, all organized religions.
Make sure you get that distinction…
intrptr
I am trying to wake you up. I have returned to Plato's Cave and I am trying to pull you into the light of day. The cave fire light is not real daylight… you live in a cave, you can't see anything down there.
It was discovered charities only usually pay out 5% of their "income" to actual needy people.
I don't have the link, you can verify.
Maybe masons don''t pass the plate, maybe they help more or less, its still a minimal contribution to a world of suffering.
Not Masons in particular, rather, all organized religions.
I am trying to wake you up.
I have returned to Plato's Cave and I am trying to pull you into the light of day. The cave fire light is not real daylight… you live in a cave, you can't see anything down there.
Pinocchio
Is it "amason"... lol... get it...??? Amason/amazin.
You're trying to wake people up by pulling them to the light? Sounds pretty religious to me.
What do you call someone who swears they know masonry better than the masons, but is not a mason…?
Despise = hatred.
But at least they are honest. You don't hear them say their sport "isn't a sport".