Why Masons do not worship Lucifer (or Satan)

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Archetypes have a unique distinction to constructs in that archetypes (as described by Jung) represent the purest, most simplified form of an idea (ergo information along with consciousness).

Constructs can be complex. And so can people.

I highly recommend reading A Theory of Personality: The Psychology of Personal Constructs by George S Kelly.

Here's an excerpt from the intro written by the man Kelly himself:

Like other theories, the psychology of personal constructs is the implementation of a philosophical assumption. In this case the assumption is that whatever nature may be, or howsoever the quest for truth will turn out in the end, the events we face today are subject to as great a variety of construction as our wits will enable us to contrive. This is not to say that one construction is as good as any other, nor is it to deny that at some infinite point in time human vision will behold reality out to the utmost reaches of existence.
But it does remind us that all our present perceptions are open to question and reconsideration, and it does broadly suggest that even the most obvious occurrences of everyday life might appear utterly transformed if we were inventive enough to construe them differently.

He's famous, and at one point infamous, for loudly declaring that there is no objective reality, and that objectivity is in itself a construct we use to observe the physical world.

Anyways... yea.

Heil Satan my dark lord and master!

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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Masons worship or at least covet power and control. Just like most other organisations really that follow specific ideologies designed to achieve a purpose or goal.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Masons worship or at least covet power and control.

How do you 'worship power' or 'control'? Do you light a candle or make an offering?

Just like most other organisations really that follow specific ideologies designed to achieve a purpose or goal.

Based on your knowledge of Masonry what is the purpose or goal?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Worship can take many guises and different forms, how one does such is really up to the individual i imagine.

Based on my knowledge of Masonry, which is only what i have read, prosperity and helping other masons seems to be the main objective.

Prosperity generally carrying with it a measure of power and control.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Based on my knowledge of Masonry, which is only what i have read, prosperity and helping other masons seems to be the main objective.

Then your knowledge is limited and incorrect, it is more about helping society over those in the Fraternity.

At the end of every meeting Masons are charged to..."remember that every human being has a claim upon your kind offices, do good unto all men...".

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Well i'm not a Masons so my knowledge regarding the organisation is indeed limited to what i can read or view.

"do good unto all men"

Think the Bible allures to similar practice then goes on to contradict itself in numerous different ways, but i agree with the general premise of the statement.

originally posted by: andy06shake
"do good unto all men"

Think the Bible allures to similar practice then goes on to contradict itself in numerous different ways...

That premise appears in various places in the ritual so there is no contradiction. I can provide the actual images later in the week if you wanted to have this verified.

a reply to: andy06shake
I think you're projecting.

a reply to: KSigMason

Projecting what exactly?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Aye that would be rather interesting AugustusMasonicus.

Not so much for verification, but i'm sure they would draw some interest.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Aye that would be rather interesting AugustusMasonicus.

Not so much for verification, but i'm sure they would draw some interest.

I'll get some up later in the week or the weekend. Remind me if I forget.