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originally posted by: Ticonderoga
I don't think that masons worship satan.
originally posted by: Jimmy11118
I respect peoples beliefs but I don't think that's a good idea. how do you expect to be popular or get invited to all the cool parties?
originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
I hate to bump the thread but I thought this was perfect thread to ask have if you guys ever heard of these groups or seen this type of regalia before? The groups are called System of initiationRojismo, the Order Illuminati and Societas OTO, the Order of Memphis of Rumania, Lodge Centauro 9-96 (I believe located in Spain), and OCI (Ordine dei Cavalieri Illuminati) of Italy? The regalia I'm asking about the top picture of the link below.
originally posted by: Nygdan
This man claims to be the founder or at least charter member of an Illuminati Order in Spain. He also claims to have had prophetic and ecstatic visions, and even wrote (dictated to him by nonetheless than Baphomet itself) a revealed sacred text, which apparently is involved in the Illuminated Degrees that he offers. He started this Order in '95, and claims that it has adherent all over the world, primarily in Spain and south America. He also claims to have done "tenacious work like Great Master of the Illuminati Order and the elaboration of Operative Rite of the Illuminated ones of Bavaria of thirteen degrees of initiation. The Rite or System of the Illuminati Order was nourished of the degrees of the Rite of the Illuminated ones of Bavaria, elaborated by Adam Weishaupt and Adolf von Knigge in century XVIII; of the Old and Accepted Scottish Rite of 33 degrees; and of the iniciatica experience of Lopez de Rojas in several traditional routes of initiation."
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
I hate to bump the thread but I thought this was perfect thread to ask have if you guys ever heard of these groups or seen this type of regalia before? The groups are called System of initiationRojismo, the Order Illuminati and Societas OTO, the Order of Memphis of Rumania, Lodge Centauro 9-96 (I believe located in Spain), and OCI (Ordine dei Cavalieri Illuminati) of Italy? The regalia I'm asking about the top picture of the link below.
Busy weekend for me so now that I had some free time I thought I would do some diggings on your person of interest; Gabriel Lopez de Rojas.
The best place to start? Right here. One of the oldest members on the site, Nygdan, who sadly does not post anymore, had this to say:
originally posted by: Nygdan
This man claims to be the founder or at least charter member of an Illuminati Order in Spain. He also claims to have had prophetic and ecstatic visions, and even wrote (dictated to him by nonetheless than Baphomet itself) a revealed sacred text, which apparently is involved in the Illuminated Degrees that he offers. He started this Order in '95, and claims that it has adherent all over the world, primarily in Spain and south America. He also claims to have done "tenacious work like Great Master of the Illuminati Order and the elaboration of Operative Rite of the Illuminated ones of Bavaria of thirteen degrees of initiation. The Rite or System of the Illuminati Order was nourished of the degrees of the Rite of the Illuminated ones of Bavaria, elaborated by Adam Weishaupt and Adolf von Knigge in century XVIII; of the Old and Accepted Scottish Rite of 33 degrees; and of the iniciatica experience of Lopez de Rojas in several traditional routes of initiation."
It sounds like Gabriel Lopez de Rojas made up some interesting stories about himself and created some new degrees so that he could use it as a money making scheme.
Anyone using this guy as a source is more duped than those paying him for his inventions.
originally posted by: imnotagree
If masons dont worship Satan why have they secrets?
originally posted by: imnotagree
If masons dont worship Satan why have they secrets?
originally posted by: imnotagree
I just thought that if the masonic´s secrets are not bad things, What are masons hiding? Is it related with the gnostic philosophy?
and I have questions to Augustus specifically: Are you a high level mason? Why have masons secrets to others masons? Can you confirm that you know everything about freemasonry ?
And yes, secrets are bad things for themself.