Why Masons do not worship Lucifer (or Satan)

originally posted by: Ploutonas
then how i did it? i gave it above, click it... The translators are not always perfect, for example the word "arcade" is the centers you have, the buildings, we call them STOA in greece, the trnaslator translated it as "arcade"...

All this translates to is another Christian hit piece because they do not like the fact that we allow men of differing faiths to join Masonry.

More religious hypocrisy from so-called 'Christians'.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

what you;ve said, proves it...

Anyway, I am not a christian, or islam, I dont accept any judaism, or budhaism, or jade or monkey/tiger/dragon/turtle or 12 gods of olympus, or anything that is recognised by this system! I will try give more later, I am very open minded. And I am not an atheist, I respect and love my gods and God...

Gods and GOD is 2 different meanings, i think you know that, if you truly study the Dionysus, or Orpheus scripts and many others. The today meaning of GOD and religion, is created after the cataclysmic event. In ancient greece (much more ancient, before it even called greece, we didnt have religions, but we always respected our gods and prayed to our GOD. Today everything is labeled for a reason and masonry is not excluded.

originally posted by: Ploutonas
what you;ve said, proves it...

Proves what?

a reply to: Ploutonas
No I was referring and responded to the link you provided had two videos about the Turkish Lodge and the weird scene of cloaked individuals.

I highly doubt someone said: "We are Masons and that's our agenda." If you have their names let's have them.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Ploutonas
then how i did it? i gave it above, click it... The translators are not always perfect, for example the word "arcade" is the centers you have, the buildings, we call them STOA in greece, the trnaslator translated it as "arcade"...

All this translates to is another Christian hit piece because they do not like the fact that we allow men of differing faiths to join Masonry.

More religious hypocrisy from so-called 'Christians'.

yup...I am a Pagan, but believe in one supreme creator...and that is fine for them...never gave me guff

out alter has several holy books underneath the cover...is it upsetting to some that we allow those 'undesirable' types into Masonry? Because I hate to say it, but Masonry is very accepting so long as the three little regulations are followed

nobody cares...I don't see why Christians would care that Masons are a commingled society...shouldn't that be what greatness attempts to find? Shouldn't society try to be one? unified? That's what Masonry is

oh btw....I am an FC as of yesterday...and that lecture was awesome. I'd been told by Master Masons everywhere to make sure you listen to this lecture...and it did not disappoint.

originally posted by: KyoZero
...is it upsetting to some that we allow those 'undesirable' types into Masonry? Because I hate to say it, but Masonry is very accepting so long as the three little regulations are followed

There is a very vocal group that decries the acceptance of people of other faith. It seems to irk them that the person standing next to them may not be of the same faith. My question is if their faith is so strong, why worry what anyone else thinks?

nobody cares...I don't see why Christians would care that Masons are a commingled society...shouldn't that be what greatness attempts to find?

Weakness of character.

oh btw....I am an FC as of yesterday...and that lecture was awesome. I'd been told by Master Masons everywhere to make sure you listen to this lecture...and it did not disappoint.

The next one is good too. I think that is where Lucifer makes his big appearance.

originally posted by: network dude
you can belong to any political party. (but you must vote republican!) Actually you vote any way you want. Two things that we try to avoid discussing and CANNOT be discussed in lodge are religion and politics.

i went to the local lodge and talked with some people there. they seemed to be fine with how i described my views.

on a side note i saw nothing satanic.

a reply to: LouisCypher
The Satanic Part Comes In When You Are.... In... The... EA.
Knoose And Slave Cloth...
Freeing A Fallen Angel... And Making Him Free And Accepted By Those Who Like Him To Be

originally posted by: Pinocchio
The Satanic Part Comes In When You Are.... In... The... EA.
Knoose And Slave Cloth...
Freeing A Fallen Angel... And Making Him Free And Accepted By Those Who Like Him To Be

It has nothing to do with Satan so I have no clue what you are talking about.

Would you then agree with me that out of all the blasphemous conspiracies out there... mine... is the funniest???

I came pretty darn close to the satanicus masonicus maximus...
Yay Pinocchio...

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Pinocchio
Would you then agree with me that out of all the blasphemous conspiracies out there... mine... is the funniest???

No, I would not.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

K... Would you then agree to disagree... ???

BTW: don't be a grump...

a reply to: Pinocchio

There were already posts removed because you cannot stay on topic.

Stay on topic.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Pinocchio

There were already posts removed because you cannot stay on topic.

Stay on topic.

Most certainly...
I think... a master is like an angel. And an apprentice just like a fallen angel who must be raised up to par. Together they encounter the ceremony wherein Satan enters the temple and repents and becomes a better angel than before.
He then ventures in unto other bodies to become a clever Satan.
And it all starts with his belief in a supreme being. Am I yay...?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Pinocchio
The Satanic Part Comes In When You Are.... In... The... EA.
Knoose And Slave Cloth...
Freeing A Fallen Angel... And Making Him Free And Accepted By Those Who Like Him To Be

It has nothing to do with Satan so I have no clue what you are talking about.

Neither does he



Fitz

originally posted by: Pinocchio
Would you then agree with me that out of all the blasphemous conspiracies out there... mine... is the funniest???

Most tiresome? Beyond a doubt.

But I honestly can't say your attempts at humour are engaging

Fitz

a reply to: Pinocchio

The motto is 'making good men better', not the reformation of the spiritually bankrupt.

originally posted by: Ploutonas

Gods and GOD is 2 different meanings, i think you know that, if you truly study the Dionysus, or Orpheus scripts and many others. The today meaning of GOD and religion, is created after the cataclysmic event. In ancient greece (much more ancient, before it even called greece, we didnt have religions, but we always respected our gods and prayed to our GOD.

I disagree with you...

By my interpretation of those texts, the 'gods' are simply different manifestations of the one God.

I still hold firm that at the heart of ALL the world's major religions, every one of them believes that there is only one God. In religions such as Hindu and those of ancient Rome and Greece, it was believed that God cannot be fully known or understood. The 'gods' we talk about on earth and worship are therefore simply manifestations of that one supreme God which we, as mere mortals, can relate to more easily.

a reply to: Saurus

I feel the same way as you do. Is this a common thought with masons? do the rest of you feel this way?

Hmmm... does wanting more light in Freemasonry... mean you want more Lucifer.... ?
If so... what light does he have that you want...???