Taliban are open to negotiating end of Afghan war with U.S.

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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Taliban are open to negotiating end of Afghan war with U.S.


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Kabul - Interviews with some key Taliban members close to Mullah Omar show the Taliban are apparently open to a deal with the U.S. on ending the Afghan war.
A briefing paper by the British Royal United Services Institute includes interviews with several Taliban members who were close to Mullah Omar. One was a former minister in the Taliban government. Those interviewed thought that a negotiated settlement to the Afghan conflict was possible


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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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I did a search and found nothing about this on ATS. I did however find a few older threads that I found could be relevant to this story.

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If this is true, this could be very very good news. Then again, can we really believe the people that have been murdering thousands and thousands of innocent people over many years?

I guess we could say people change but ....I will say that I hope this does happen with all my heart but I will beleive it when I see it.

Any thoughts? Will this happen?



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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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The real story is that the US has been defeated by a bunch of dudes on dirtbikes.

The US looks pathetic negotiating with the Taliban. How humiliating for them.

The might of the US military could not even crush the Taliban who has no real military to speak of.

The US will try to bribe their way out of this mess but it wont work.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:16 AM
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Yeah because it worked so well the first time.....

Taliban Bomber Waited Days to Give Afghan Peace Envoy Rabbani Lethal Hug

Afghans Say Taliban Top Leadership Sent Bomber to Kill Peace Envoy Rabbani

If you look beyond the hatred of the US you may have noticed that the Afghan government is the one pushing the peace with the Taliban. As much as the US thinks it a bad idea its Afghanistans choice, not ours.

Or would you prefer the US government / NATO tell the Afghan government to screw off?
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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:19 AM
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Would you happen to have a link/source to back up that claim? Not saying it isnt true, but I dont know too much about this and would read up on it.

Thanks



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:28 AM
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I hope this is correct. You used an Op-Ed for your source, but here's a Business Insider article with the story. Obama also mentioned that he was working on bringing the war to an end in 2014, so that tracks.



It sets out a detailed path to a negotiated settlement for Afghanistan that could allow the majority of western troops to withdraw in 2014 without the country descending into renewed chaos.

According to the report, the Taliban representatives believe there is “no natural enmity” with the Americans, and that they would be prepared to accept a long-term US military presence in the country if it helped Afghan security.


Of course, I don't trust the Taliban, but if they're just tired of it all (isn't everyone?) I could see it happening. But I am hesitant to be hopeful about it at this time.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Teye22
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Would you happen to have a link/source to back up that claim? Not saying it isnt true, but I dont know too much about this and would read up on it.

Thanks


Its all about the exit strategy of the US. They do not want it to end up like Vietnam.

They told us they were saving the Afghan people from the evil Taliban. Now, 12 years later they tell us that the Taliban is ready to negotiate? That is a failure. If the US military cant get rid of the Taliban then how does it expect to have any respect? They are no 'police of the world'.

High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. www.ft.com... A report this week by the Royal United Services Institute, a think-tank, suggests talks with the Taliban hold some promise. The report was written by a group of academics who recently met senior Taliban figures. The Taliban interlocutors said they were ready to negotiate a ceasefire; accept a long-term US military presence in the country; and even make a decisive break with al-Qaeda.

www.ft.com...

If the 'Taliban' accept long term US Military presence and make a break from the 'al Qaeda', you can be sure that they are puppets bribed with 'aid'.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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I read the articles you linked, thanks for that. That is my point when I say I am not so sure this will happen. The taliban have done so much that I dont know what to think anymore when peace talks with them are on the table.

Will they use that oportunity to blow more people up? I certainly hope not but can they be trusted? We'll see I guess.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Before we leave out of there, if peace comes, we need to find a place for the Art of that country, the women of that country and any others who wish to be educated by someone other than men who cannot read.

This group, the Taliban will take Afghanistan back to the dark ages. They will destroy all objects of beauty, history and culture. They will kill those who stand for anything other than what they deem appropriate. There will be no hope for the people of Afghanistan. Poppies and thugs will rule.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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Good, now all they have to do is negotiate with there current enemy Al Quieda



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist


The real story is that the US has been defeated by a bunch of dudes on dirtbikes
The US looks pathetic negotiating with the Taliban. How humiliating for them.
The might of the US military could not even crush the Taliban who has no real military to speak of.
The US will try to bribe their way out of this mess but it wont work.

How do you know this is the real story...the real deal? Did you happen to have access to information that we dont?



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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taliban want peace..
US/CIA want opium/heroin profits

i can see peace talks going downhill



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
Originally posted by Teye22


They told us they were saving the Afghan people from the evil Taliban. Now, 12 years later they tell us that the Taliban is ready to negotiate? That is a failure. If the US military cant get rid of the Taliban then how does it expect to have any respect? They are no 'police of the world'.
Who exactly are the talibans? Who is supporting the Talibans (strategically/financially/hardware)? The talibans is not a single group. Follow the money (Pakistan and ISI) and ofcourse the foreign aid. Surely US needs the strategic presence in the Asian continent to keep the rising powers in check. I seriously doubt it if we will be leaving afghanistan soon (unless the resources are required else where in the theater).

TALIBANS
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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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The US army hasn't been waging all out war on the taliban, they're restrained by politics and law, truth is the US army could wipe out the whole populace without breaking a sweat if they really wanted.

So while you're right in one way, there's more to it than the us "being defeated by a bunch of dudes on dirtbikes".

The real loss for the western world in this war on terror has been the loss of freedom due to totalitarian laws being enacted on our home soil.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Over the years I've posted a few articles about possible negotiations with the Taliban.

1.) The US originally just wanted the Taliban to turn over OBL and stop allowing training facilities in their country. They agreed with conditions which were unacceptable to the US Administration at the time.

* OBL is dead and those training camps are no longer there.

2.) The US helped the Afghan Northern Alliance who were in a civil war with the Taliban overthrow them.

* The Taliban never really had control of the entire country.

3.) Negotiating a peace treaty with the Taliban.

* The Taliban will not return to power because as much as most Afghan can't stand and can't wait for the US/West to leave they also do not want to return to the hell under Taliban

4.) For years on end people will spin this as a defeat for the US/West.

* Meanwhile the Taliban are no longer in power, OBL is dead, The vast Majority of Afghans do not want the Taliban back in power, Roads, bridges, schools and hospitals have been built

The Taliban simply do not have the ability to defeat the West on the battlefield. The West cannot defeat a indigenous group {Mostly Pashtun} whose territory straddle an ancient swath of territory that crosses from mid Afghanistan to mid Pakistan.

What the hell is wrong with PEACE?

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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Colour me skeptical, but I don't buy it. These people (Taliban) are snakes, they're not to be trusted under any circumstances.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by Monger
Colour me skeptical, but I don't buy it. These people (Taliban) are snakes, they're not to be trusted under any circumstances.


I agree with your statement, this is why I said in my OP that I would believe it when I see it. I seriously doubt this will happen any time soon though (if it ever does that is).
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posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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The US originally just wanted the Taliban to turn over OBL and stop allowing training facilities in their country. They agreed with conditions which were unacceptable to the US Administration at the time.


The "conditions" which were unacceptable to the US government was this thing called evidence to confirm his guilt.
Bush's reply : "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty"

www.guardian.co.uk...
He badly wanted this war, didn't he?

But OBL was already pronounced "guilty" with zero investigation... even when the towers were still smoking... people on the media just knew it was OBL.



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