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reply to post by Greatest I am
All those with intelligence who can discern moral actions from immoral actions will agree. Moral actions for this exercise will be those issues where God interacts with humans. If you do not agree that God is immoral from what you have heard above, then give your reason and I will show that God chose the immoral path in whatever action you choose to use as your example of his moral action. That or I will show that any of his altruistic acts are self-serving.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by Greatest I am
All those with intelligence who can discern moral actions from immoral actions will agree. Moral actions for this exercise will be those issues where God interacts with humans. If you do not agree that God is immoral from what you have heard above, then give your reason and I will show that God chose the immoral path in whatever action you choose to use as your example of his moral action. That or I will show that any of his altruistic acts are self-serving.
Back at ya...
All those who do not understand either for lack of actually reading or the lack of intelligent discernment.
God interacting with humans? Hahahahaha..... You don't even know how and when he is interacting so how can you describe him interacting at all?
You are seeing God out of the eyes of someone else, you do not personally know him!!!!
You will only show within this thread ( just like the other one) what you believe based on your limited knowledge and understanding so your immoral acts of God will most definitely be from a book that describes a people 2000 years ago. Their mind set is one you hold today. Why are you stuck there? Why are many stuck there? Why do you think Jesus came on the scene and said follow me.... Because they had no clue who or what God really was and is.
What you will show is how man blames God.... Just as you do. It's an old way of thinking.... Evolve already!
edit on 12-9-2012 by MamaJ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Greatest I am
god said: "i am who i am". god is god. question is, what influences god ? how is god's will "formed" ?
edit on 12-9-2012 by icepack because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HamrHeed
God is immoral because I said so"
You do realize this statement has been made many times?
ps he prefers to be called Father
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by HamrHeed
God is immoral because I said so"
You do realize this statement has been made many times?
ps he prefers to be called Father
Is this your way of refuting the premise?
If so, your apologising needs work.
Will you let my premise win by default?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by akushla99
Oh my! Shock, horror!
The Creator of all that is seen and unseen, the omnipotent, omniscient creator is 'self-serving'...
I wouldn't put much credit into arguing the toss, using material that so thoroughly contradicts itself...or...my, my...has been totally misinterpreted
Fundies will argue the word...but interpret and misinterpret nonetheless...
Detractors will argue the word against the word...but interpret the interpretation...and the misinterpretation...
A99
Not by morality and that is what should direct his will.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by Greatest I am
All those with intelligence who can discern moral actions from immoral actions will agree. Moral actions for this exercise will be those issues where God interacts with humans. If you do not agree that God is immoral from what you have heard above, then give your reason and I will show that God chose the immoral path in whatever action you choose to use as your example of his moral action. That or I will show that any of his altruistic acts are self-serving.
Back at ya...
All those who do not understand either for lack of actually reading or the lack of intelligent discernment.
God interacting with humans? Hahahahaha..... You don't even know how and when he is interacting so how can you describe him interacting at all?
You are seeing God out of the eyes of someone else, you do not personally know him!!!!
You will only show within this thread ( just like the other one) what you believe based on your limited knowledge and understanding so your immoral acts of God will most definitely be from a book that describes a people 2000 years ago. Their mind set is one you hold today. Why are you stuck there? Why are many stuck there? Why do you think Jesus came on the scene and said follow me.... Because they had no clue who or what God really was and is.
What you will show is how man blames God.... Just as you do. It's an old way of thinking.... Evolve already!
edit on 12-9-2012 by MamaJ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by HamrHeed
God is immoral because I said so"
You do realize this statement has been made many times?
ps he prefers to be called Father
Is this your way of refuting the premise?
If so, your apologising needs work.
Will you let my premise win by default?
Regards
DL
Your premise is that you're of God's mind.. to know how He operates.. It's a uniquely human question to ask.
It's beautiful, let's just agree
Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Greatest I am
Not by morality and that is what should direct his will.
or: not enough of morality. but what could be the other influences ? maybe it is the animalistic part of the creation, too.
Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Greatest I am
Not by morality and that is what should direct his will.
or: not enough of morality. but what could be the other influences ? maybe it is the animalistic part of the creation, too.
Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by HamrHeed
do you believe, you can decide your fate with free will ?