Originally posted by ComeFindMe
reply to post by NWOwned
Interesting post, but what about the strong possibility that the engine became detached upon impact / in the building - which would ultimately explain
the anomaly you mention?
Also, what are you actually trying to infer with your theory?
Hi, thanks for responding with a possibility and entering upon a potential discussion.
Would it ultimately explain the anomaly I mention?
Let us start a little earlier before answering that important question.
So you've looked at the video I linked and the screen shot and diagrams I provided and you agree that I am pointing out a peculiar anomaly?
I'm just trying to confirm between us (and for future readers) that I am actually presenting an anomaly and it can indeed be recognized as such.
Do you agree with my assessment that:
1. There is indeed an anomaly seen in the Naudet 'Fireman's Video'? (Related to the timing sequence and location of the damage pattern etc.)
2. The way I describe how an actual 767 (even by the official story account) should impact the tower is accurate and ordinary and not up for much
3. That despite what crashing a 767 into the North Tower SHOULD LOOK LIKE, that the Naudet clip does not match this obvious straightforward impact
expectation in very important and specific ways.
Because you mention my pointing out an anomaly and you yourself offering a possible scenario to explain what I describe, I will for the moment accept
that you, as far as it goes, see what I am saying etc.
Now, back to your question.
Whether the engine was attached or detached from the plane, indeed from the right wing (for even if the engine were detached or to have become
detached, it would've become detached from the wing above it) there is the problem where the right engine (detached or attached) and right wing above
it do not show damage on the building face in their respective areas until well after damage is seen out where the right wing tip would supposedly hit
And THIS, taking into consideration the flat building and how a 767 is built and would necessarily enter head on, is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
The damage pattern observed in the Naudet video (and the anomaly I describe derived from an examination of it) DOES NOT MATCH the official story
account of a 767 impacting the face of the tower. And what that should look like if the Naudet video captured what it claims to have captured.
So attached or detached there really is no apparent hole being made by the right engine, nor progressive left to right tearing of the tower's facade
by the wing that holds the engine and does remain, prior to the damage seen and recorded out at the wing tip.
The materials I provided show damage at the right wing tip area BEFORE damage where the right engine and right wing are. And so whether attached or
detached is immaterial. Besides since this is the only video record of the supposed 'impact', nowhere on it have I seen evidence of either a detached
or attached right engine upon impact.
What I have pointed out and provided evidence for is that damage occurs on the building face at the right wing tip BEFORE there is seen any damage in
the area where the engine and even heavier part of the wing, that was also, don't forget, not only heavier part of wing but engine and part of wing
CLOSER to the building on a nose in hit (as I show in my noted up diagram.)
So no, in short, your suggestion does not in any way clear up the anomaly I present.
As for inferring and this being my "theory", what I present is something anyone can see for themselves.
The Naudet clip is supposed to be a shot of a 767 hitting the North Tower HEAD ON, so therefore, as far as the "official" story goes it's like an
'official video'. Like Apollo 11 on the moon or the JFK Zapruder film etc. Now I'm trying to think up an equivalent scenario... It's like looking at
Neil Armstrong jumping around on the moon, and then years later after a satellite scans the surface and posts it on youtube you don't see any
And you go like, "Hey, wait a minute!"
My "Hey wait a minute!" moment concerning the Naudet 'Fireman's Video' has to do with the story that a 767 went head first into that tower.
Well, yeah, OK. But seriously. And I'm being serious here. I look at that video and see that damage happens at the right wing tip area of the 'plane'
impact before any impact is even seen where the right engine and heavier right wing are or should impact. And this is frankly impossible. Why? Because
the engines and heavier wing are further forward on the wings themselves (due to the angled sweep back of the wings).
SO, there is no physical way possible for the right wing tip to cause damage to the flat facade before the right engine and heavier right side wing,
edit on 14-9-2012 by NWOwned because: spelling