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Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by InhaleExhale
....I dont think I have ever posted saying anything can waken a structure but cannot weaken it to collapse....
Actually, that's what I understood your post to say. You contend that the fire can weaken a building but not cause the collapse because that scenario is too simple.
Yes its way to simple, for example if the fire and only fire was lets say top 10 stories of a 100story building would it collapse if designed like the trade towers.
What im getting at is fire sure can weaken a structure to point of collapse however to say fire alone caused the collapse leaves to many questions like the position and area covered of fire, design of building so on ...
I do believe the USA was caught with its pants down and a large proportion about 30% think its an inside job because they would rather that than having the worlds most powerful nation made to look stupid by a handful of determined terrorists.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
An actual picture during construction showing your video is BS!
All the steelwork your video claims wasn't there !!!!!!!!!
Imagine using a quote from rense they wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them on the face.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by Shamatt
Jumping to more assumptions that everyone that posts on a 9/11 and supports the OS is
1) From the USA
2) Believes everything the government says!
I am not from the USA and I don't believe everything any government says is always true.
I do believe the USA was caught with its pants down and a large proportion about 30% think its an inside job because they would rather that than having the worlds most powerful nation made to look stupid by a handful of determined terrorists.edit on 13-9-2012 by wmd_2008 because: (no reason given)
Here, I choose not to ignore the actual evidence of a 20-story hole in the side of the building. Not what I would call "almost no structural damage", in any scenario.
WTC was damage their was a gash in one elevation that was on 20 floors reported by the NYFD or do you want to say they were lying ?
Rewatch the video. It says steel reinforced concrete tube.
Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by Shamatt
Thanks for the article. I have already seen everything in it though, but now I have the best spot ever to point people to. I've actually woken up at least 3 people all the way I would say. I went low and slow, only offering up things I knew would happen in the future so they could see it for themselves. Once you understand what is really going on to any great degree, you can tell the next steps that have to happen.
I was warning about Iran and Syria being blown up for a long time now, since maybe 2005. Then in 06 my commanders would joke at questions of where will I be deployed? THey'd look at there watch and say well, looks like it's about time for Iran, but I think we can squeeze in Syria too. They thought it was funny, but it stuck in my head. So I told people the List to look for and lo and behold all but Syria and Iran have been taken out, and Syria is being attacked hardcore at the current time. "Oh he said this would happen and it is." He must have figured out the game." hey man "what do you know?" Well, here's 9/11...
Then they start asking questions. Once they do that you're in.
Now these guys are even coming to me with new findings, and to see what I think about particular news pieces. 9/11 will backfire on those serving EVIL. Once you get someone to learn about 9/11 and except the cold truth of life, they can then go all the way to the top. Nothing iss too scary to not believe anymore. It's actually empowering to know that there's not much to lose, by fighting for truth, since we already lost our country. I have lost my fear of death, because my fear of living in a NWO is greater than my fear of death. Already knowing that with them the end justifies the means. ie they have lost their minds.
9/11 was the conspiracy straw the broke the camels back.. It leads down every path.
Thanks again for the article, already saved it to my HD.
Perfect starting piece for the noobs.
Originally posted by Shamatt
I'm not very good at being clever with the written word. So please don't think I am being rude, I just don't know how else to ask:
How can anybody read this article, and look at some of the links, listen to children sitting a the presidents feet repeating the words "plane steel hit must" and STILL not be in the slightest bit scepticle, or even a tiny little bit suspicious of the official story?
Slayer - you might want to tackle this one? Honestly?
Originally posted by ComeFindMe
reply to post by NWOwned
Interesting post, but what about the strong possibility that the engine became detached upon impact / in the building - which would ultimately explain the anomaly you mention?
Also, what are you actually trying to infer with your theory?
Eventually, someone got through the wall. We now had a hole about the diameter of a finger and fresh air was coming through. The elevator shaft wall turned out to be 3 inches thick. It consisted of 3 ply of one inch sheetrock held together by the steel frame I mentioned.