reply to post by exponent
You forgot about this: "one of four top forensic engineers commissioned
to perform a postmortem on the World Trade Center's collapse." That is
past tense to me, which means he all ready had a role in the investigation, which means, to me, he was talking in a Professional context.
Or this from my second link supports it:
"The investigation, organized immediately
after Sept. 11 by the American Society of Civil Engineers, the field's leading professional
organization, has been financed and administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency."
But, also, you are ignoring the word "learning" (that one word again), which to me means something more than theorizing. Does it not?
And also, you're ignoring his words "very surprised." What made him "very surprised" (his words) 8 days after the event and before the investigation
began? Was he "very surprised" that remnants of bombs didn't automatically start hopping out of the debris pile in 8 days? What specifically in the
videos allows one to "learn" that "no bombs had been detonated"? (Remember, this all started with "You can't prove a negative")
Put another way... do coming up with theories or speculations make one "very surprised"? Can they be considered "learning"?
And you're ignoring just two months later his statement "which is why it collapsed as it did."
I guess my concern with this boils down to: Did he ever actually seriously investigate "charges placed in the buildings?" It appears to me, he did
not. And I freely admit appearances can be deceiving, but he's been asked about this before and, from what I've read, he seems to just brush the
Anyway, perhaps you are right, there isn't much further we can go, I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this. This does seem more of an exercise in
argumentative gymnastics, rather than discovering anything new.
But just to let you know, I am definitely not conclusive on this. As I said in a previous post, I look at stuff like this and see "certain trends"
emerge. But I'm not overall satisfied with any final position, whether it be NIST's report, plain incompetence, a bomb conspiracy, thermite conspiracy
or a political conspiracy. None to me are totally convincing. (I suppose I should also include no-planes and energy beams and mini-nukes... but I
didn't want to open that door... but it looks like I just did.)
But it's funny you used the word "political", as in my second link there is this:
''FEMA is controlling everything,'' the team member said. ''It sounds funny, but just give us the money and let us do it, and get the politics out of
But for now...see you soon in another thread.
edit on 30-9-2012 by NIcon because: Changed "actually seriously considered" to "actually seriously investigate" to be more precise...